Come to think of it though - that bird would make a great feast for an Apostafest! HUGE bonfire at the beach - get a huge tractor and just dump the bird on the bonfire. No feathers to pluck that way
Mimilly
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hummm ... perhaps they need to "clone" this, al la jurassic park.
christmas dinner will be quite interesting.. xandria
Come to think of it though - that bird would make a great feast for an Apostafest! HUGE bonfire at the beach - get a huge tractor and just dump the bird on the bonfire. No feathers to pluck that way
Mimilly
i thought it would be a nice break from things to have a little fun and at the same time fine tune our jw repellant skills.
so it is time for another round of un-theocratic ministry school.
for this presentation my fine ex-jw friends, we will play door to door games with dubs.
Ah, Sir, you sound a little bit delusional. Why has such a god waited for so bloody long to DO something? Millions have died, and you yourself say that the world is going downhill.
Oh,,,wait a minute... I remember something a friend told me a long time ago - that Jehovahs believe that they are the only ones who god would save. Is this true?
As for the tools, I think God would've given us the 'tools' if he thought we needed them. All his words are right there in the Bible. All those magazines cost money to make and just kill trees. Why aren't you giving out bibles?
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i thought it would be a nice break from things to have a little fun and at the same time fine tune our jw repellant skills.
so it is time for another round of un-theocratic ministry school.
for this presentation my fine ex-jw friends, we will play door to door games with dubs.
Yeh, right.... Jehovah's Witnesses. I've heard of you people. I thought you people preached the bible or something..... why are you pushing magazines? And really, a Paradise earth? Look at it all! No one can get along! The enviornment is collapsing! How is a paradise going to come about with this? There are too many people to reason with and too many who want the wars.
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well well....how wonderful it is to see people taking potshots at one another, to see a group of people who could be supporting and helping one another instead turn to infighting and slagging.
i'm disgusted by it all, i really am.
in the last year or so that i've been online, i thought that i had made some real friends, i thought that it was possible to really get to know people thru this modern miracle of technology.
Hey sweet Dana,
The past two (or so) days that this has been going on, has drained me, and also triggered me. It reminded me of when my parents were fighting - one would be in the livingroom with the tv and the other would be in the rec room with the stereo. If one turned up the volume, the other would turn up the volume etc. etc. etc. until things were blaring in the house. Now, I had school in the morning and this often happened at night. Things would escalate until my parents were yelling at each other (over the volume of the tv and stereo) and then objects would start being thrown. I thought my head would surely bust.
I was so dismayed that Simon and Angahard had to arrive home to THIS - happening in their cyber home. I was disgusted that common sense was an abstract thing to some - they needed exact rules, which is censorship, which they didn't want. Circular arguments. I spent a couple times trying to reason with some. Check my thread 'Remember...'. It didn't get many responses but I hope it slapped a few people upside the head - figuratively speaking.
No one will ever make me leave this place. I'm in a bad space today because of the fighting (but I could've left - I just didn't want people to get hurt so I stuck around). Just like I did as a kid. I made sure mom wasn't killed. This place is home to me. It's done so much good and the majority of people here are fantastic spirits. Dana - please don't let anyone push you away. It gives them too much power and they are already experiencing delusions of adequacy.
Give my thread a look-see cos I bring up all the good stuff. Things have settled down now.
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Dana)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) This place needs people like you.
Mimilly
i thought it would be a nice break from things to have a little fun and at the same time fine tune our jw repellant skills.
so it is time for another round of un-theocratic ministry school.
for this presentation my fine ex-jw friends, we will play door to door games with dubs.
Uh, hello...............
Mimilly
i'm kind of burnt out from being pissed off at jws.
tonight, while talking to a friend who left at the same time i did (several years ago), we both spoke of our apathy towards the whole anti-witness movement.
recently i helped in several anti-jw actions, and i thought i made a difference, although it was a pittens compared to others who have come before.
Ash - Growth is a rollercoaster of stairs with many a plateau for the brain to absorb it all. I think it during these plateaus that the confusion/doubts/frustration etc. kick in because the brain is filing the experiences.
Don't doubt that you've touched someone's heart or even saved a life. Your very presence speaks volumes. As a previous poster said - there are many lurkers. Plus, there are many on the board who may be having a hard time and just do not reply to your post, which in fact, helped them.
Everyone needs a break sometime. But you DO make a difference here.
big hugs, Mimilly
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hummm ... perhaps they need to "clone" this, al la jurassic park.
christmas dinner will be quite interesting.. xandria
I've seen angry geese when I lived on the farm. The small ones were bad enough - thanks. Gawd...how would you put THAT thing in the oven
Ozzie... do you really say that in Oz?
Mimilly of the Aussie speech impaired class
hmmmm 8.
I loved the extended coffee breaks - you know - the ones where many counted their time because an Awake was on the table and the other customers could see it?!
I found service VERY difficult, especially with two very young kids. Add to that, all the other young kids who justifiably got bored, tired, hungry and were chastised for being normal.
8. yep.
Mimilly
when nobody around you seems to measure up, its time to check your yardstick.
bill lemley
sj is a middle aged jw woman who used to be married to a non-believer.
Victor - I love reading your threads - so informative. I have learned a great deal from my husband, (an RN on locked psych wards for over 10 years) He tells me stories without names and thereby keeping confidentiality. There are so many who are bi-polar. It seems the affliction is increasing, even in children.
One notable thing is that while a person is in the euphoric or manic stage, they are on fast forward, speak incredibly fast (incomprehensible to the listener) and therefor cannot take a moment to make any decision.
One of the greatest reasons I loathe the Borg is that they will not allow people who NEED professional help - to get it. Like myself, they deem such people as demonized or spiritually weak.
This is another attribute of the borg that needs to be brought out on international tv. I feel so badly for those who suffer mental afflictions. Even those that take medication are looked down on, called addicts, told to go herbal, told a bible study would be better.
ARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Mimilly
there are so many people here who have been hurt in various individual ways.
they have fought to stay alive, to have self confidence, to sustain when tragedy has struck them, or even, multiple tragedies.
most of us have come out of the borg - and that in itself takes enormous strength, causes enormous pain, and doubts, confusion and fights with family or shunned by family and trust issues.
There are SO many people here who have been hurt in various individual ways. They have fought to stay alive, to have self confidence, to sustain when tragedy has struck them, or even, multiple tragedies.
Most of us have come out of the borg - and that in itself takes enormous strength, causes enormous pain, and doubts, confusion and fights with family or shunned by family and trust issues.
We've lost family members, pets that are dear to us, friends by suicide or illness, and worried though episodes regarding children.
Even bad days are voiced. We all share these things, whether we post them or not. Moving probs, money probs, emotional probs, suicidal feelings.
We have stood behind Silentlambs - all the voices brave to speak up, silent no more - freedom for those who've been there, and the numbers are great and collectively rejoiced when it hit the large networks and spanned continents.
Yet we all have come to the aid of such ones. Hugs, kisses, 'email me', 'call me', visits and keep us posted. We've sent money to the father in Calgary who is still trying to find his daughter. This site has saved many lives and hearts because of it's posters and their caring.
It is sad that we are forgetting the enormous good this site does and bickering over whether there are explicit rules to follow. I have read posts referring to the editing and deleting, censorship and lack of a 'rules list' compared to the borg. Actually, it was the borg who put explicit rules down. We are only asked to use common sense. We all have it.
Naebs - you've got incredible wit. Trauma_Hound - you've got a big heart. Moe - you've been through so much and remain resilient. JanH - your articles are educating - informative. I can't think of anyone else right now who was involved in all this. It's just that I think all of you are great people but are missing what you've gained by this site vs what you think you've lost. Naebs - that f...k post was hilarious and I once had the sound file - it was done in documentary style. Had it been put under Jokes with a warning attached, I believe it wouldn't have been deleted. Common sense.
Take your censorship arguements to the political realm in your countries. THAT is where censorship takes place. What you believe in is worthy of fight - but not here, and not over this. Newspapers that are owned by a political party and won't allow 'the other point of view'; universities, the cornerstones of free speach, that were once allowed to teach about the Islamic religion and now are having to drop it due to terrorism - it's deemed unpatriotic. Knowing both sides is what helps us make decisions.
Please remember the good this site has done, and the times when you've been helped or were able to help, even if by a hug. Let's put priorities in perspective. Healthy debates can and do exist - the proof is on the board. You do not need an explicit set of rules to be happy. The majority of us are adults. Let's behave as such.
Common sense rules. There's nothing wrong with that.
hugs and love,
Mimilly
edited by me.
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