Posts by Bella15

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Post disfellowshipped: My first experience within "Babylon the Great"

by TimothyT in

in need of my continuing search for spirituality and my desire to find a church where i can be welcomed and have good enjoyable spiritual conversation with its members, jack and i decided today that we would visit the baptist church near his home.

it was punkofnice who suggested it.

x. well... i loved it!.

Bella15

Your first experience with Babylon the Great!!! That's funny!

The first church I went to was Lakewood Church, they are non-denominational, I used to attend both Spanish and English LOVED IT - then a few other small churches my friends or coworkers invited me to. I also went to Second Baptist - LOVED IT, then I started to ask God to guide me to a good bible based church near home where my kids could also meet other teenagers (they wanted this as Lakewood and Second Baptist were far away from us), so now we are settled at The River United Methodist Church and we cannot be happier. www.theriverumc.com

Methodist are big on serving others ... at least my church is ... amazing! I have to really really think during bible classes or different seminars that I need to take to become a volunteer or servant member ... they don't give me the answers (like in the WT books) I have to read, study the bible citations and answer accordingly, we use no other books, only the bible. Also, all these 3 churches have requested criminal background checks on me in order to volunteer and during the volunteer information sessions they are very explicit at telling you that if you are a child molester or have any kind of problems like this YOU NEED NOT TO APPLY, also that proper authorities will be contacted, either CPS or Police depending on the nature of the abuse discovered (either by parents or volunteers).

The picture the WTC painted of the Christian Churches is not accurate at all and the churches that I have visited resemble more the ones of the new testament than the JWs.

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A Course in Miracles

by semelcred in

i've just started reading a course in miracles and wondered if any one here has any thoughts or any contact with this book?

as an ex-jw i find it hard to accept reading any other religious publication but i find the idea of the ego's attempt at separation as the real issue against the idea of original sin a fascinating concept.

also the book was channeled!

Bella15

I read some of Eckhart Tolle's books when I was still searching for God ... I found out about him through Oprah

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Feeling sad, dunno why ...

by Dudu in

today i received great news .. one more customer to my business, compliments from my boss at work, and some payments i was waiting for.

but i feel sad, guilty, mix of feelings.... i ve been thinking about my life in the jw org, after 2 months of fading im having these feelings :( :(.

Bella15

Perhaps you are happy for all the good things that you experienced today and you would like to thank God for it??? What prevents you from doing so? God is not respecter of men ...

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John 2:19-22 and the bodily resurrection of Christ

by booker-t in

i must admit after talking about this subject with evangelical christians i am still not sure why do they hold onto this false doctrine that blaspemes jehovah god and jesus christ and just cannot be proven from the bible.

i have talked to christians for years regarding this doctrine and while i try not to debate anymore like i used to do i still have christians trying to read john 2:19-22 to fit their doctrine.

i always like to take the verse piece by piece to show christians their errors.

Bella15

By the way you express yourself I can see you don't consider yourself a Christian? You talk of Christians like if you were Muslin, Hindu, Budhist? What faith do you profess?

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WTS Legal Dept: "Try to make your kids seem normal."

by irondork in

just finished reading the segment on setting double standards from in search of christian freedom.

franz gives as an example what is probably the most wanton display of in-your-face hypocrisy.. citing a brochure produced by the legal department designed to help witness parents in child custody battles:.

this can be used to show that they are normal.

Bella15

As someone who was raised in that cult, this is one of the things that really makes me mad, well perhaps frustrates me more, we know that it is all lies. Like the blood thing, gosh I see how stupid I was now, I didn't know anything about the whole issue, let's not forget all the medical and scientific info behind, I taught and indoctrinated to say NO BLOOD. I was so irresponsible as a mom, when I was about to deliver my first baby I signed the consent form for no-blood without knowing anything about it. Thanks God nothing happens but I was really in the dark, like a parrot I only learned to say NO BLOOD, NO BLOOD, NO BLOOD.

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Watchtower admits Bible Teaches Trinity & hellfire!

by williamhconley in

the wathtower admits that by reading the bible alone without their help, people will believe in the trinity, hellfire, visible return of christ, heavenly hope for all christians etc etc.. here's the quote:.

"from time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of jehovah's people those, who, like the original satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude... they say that it is sufficient to read the bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home.

but, strangely, through such 'bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago..." (watchtower, aug. 15, 1981, p. 29).. why would people revert back to christendoms doctrines unless the bible actually teaches them!.

Bella15

Yeah I have read that before ... so Am I a copy-Satan for believing what God, the prophets, the law, the psalms, the apostles say about Jesus being the only Mediator for me not the Watchtower CROOKPORATION? Am I a copy-Satan for following God's commandment to read and meditate the Holy Scriptures daily and teach them to my children who in turn will teach them their children for generations?

Satan was a murderer since the beginning and the father of lies ... JWs are murderers in Jesus' book, they salivate at the THOUGHT of billions of people being killed in their "armageddon" - they rejoice with Satan in the destruction of GOD's own creation. God's will is that NO ONE perishes ... JW's will is for everyone to perish soon, yesterday if possible. Do I need to talk about their lies ????? No? I thougth so. Thanks.

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"LOOK! Here is the Christ." Don't believe it people!

by TimothyT in

in my research of the gospels, im trying to prove to myself what the acceptable and perfect will of god is.

as its becoming clearer and clearer, i cant help but notice how wrong the jws are.

why couldnt i see these things in the past?

Bella15

I am very happy for you Timothy because what you're doing will cleanse your soul faster than any counseling sessions would (although very good to open your eyes but yours eyes are being opened already). I went through the same, at the time I had bought another bible with Jesus' words iin red because I only wanted to know what Jesus' said according to the writers and apostles. Sometimes I read things that made me go to the New World translation to make sure it was there, it was like reading stuff for the first time in my life. I literally felt like I had cataracts or something in my eyes before and I felt it coming off. I felt like my brain was being cleaned of spiderwebs, but there was something spiritually going on in me.

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"That's what Armageddon will look like."

by AllTimeJeff in

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i couldn't put the words back in my mouth.. that is what i said, without premeditation, to our car group on tuesday, september 11, 2001.. on that day, as an elder, i was out in fs.

in dealing with the shock of what we saw and were listening to on the radio (like good little pioneers, we didn't stop our day, we used this as an opportunity to preach...) some of us were showing the bits of humanity that the borg hadn't completely stolen from us, myself included.. we got an unusual amount of people who talked with us that day.

opinions as you can imagine varied.

Bella15

That's so sweet of you.

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Local Congo WTF - someone's funeral

by Anony Mous in

so yesterday the meeting got cancelled.

i was wondering why, finally got to her the coboe's wife died.

interesting... i didn't know he was the pastor.

Bella15

That must be a first ...

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Im disfellowshipped

by newcomer1982 in

think it was announced yesterday that im disfellowshipped.

will these feelings of guilt and panic ever go away?

my head is so messed up.

Bella15

Things may not look right at the moment, but things will get better but you also have to be intentional about it. I second all the suggestions given before, read about cults, research the Watchtower Corporation from its beginnings, and if I may add do not stop talking to God Creator (if you still believe in that). Not related but once I told God, I am willing to die for you (and I mean it) but I will not remain married for you (was in a bad marriage ... husband liked another man better ) but anyway, being truthful and honest with GOD helped me so much in that period of my life. Good luck.