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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

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  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  How far does genetic drift go? If you can accept that the dog, racoon and bear all had a common ancestor, then you've digested a major building block of evolutionary theory.

  In response to this, proponents of creation will guffaw and say that these animals are all variations on basically the same theme. They're all four legged, warm blooded carnivores and not really anything, "new."

  I just wanted to say that this is not strictly true. While I do agree you will find a large portion of creationists (especially the older ones) who will immediately disregard any of this, there are more creationists than you think who are like me. I am a creationist and a staunch evolutionist. I see nothing about one that precludes the other.
  
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  Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)

  by rulehayl in

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  hi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.

  my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.

  she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.

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  I try my best to follow all of Jehovah's rules, but sometimes I just want to quit now because it becomes too overwhelming and difficult.

  Matthew 11

  28 “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

  Are you sure exactly whose rules it is you're following?
  
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  What will you be doing on the evening of the 11th ?

  by Phizzy in

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  mrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..

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  I do always get a kick out of it when dubs try to pretend like we don't have personal, first hand experience with this religion and don't know EXACTLY how things operate in the Watchtower church.

  Fun stuff.

  Keep it up, djeggnog. The haughty tone of your posts is sure to be a glaring warning sign to any on the fence who would stumble upon this thread, and that's a very, very good thing.
  
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  New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

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  My husband's not a J.W. but if I successfully fade I would still never be able to get involved in celebrations on his side of the family though.

  Why not? I'm just thinking if your husband's side of the family were having a holiday party or something it's not like your parents would be there.
  
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  I need some serious help

  by bulldogg1877 in

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  i grew up a jw kid until the age of twelve.

  since then i have lived a worldly life.

  i have enjoyed alot of my life experiences, but i now feel like i am lost.

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  bulldogg1877,

  I'll state up front that I haven't read the thread yet. There are many people here who mean well and will be eager to give you advice. I find in situations like these it's more beneficial to start simple and look at the basic questions.

  What makes you think that joining this religion will give you a chance at a do-over in paradise?
  
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  This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies

  by the-Question in

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  so, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?

  nothing better to do with your time?.

  you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.

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  We hope ? will never have to experience what many experienced on this site through the org. But when he does...most likely he or she will change their name from question to something else so none of us will recognize them, because they will have to eat their words by calling folks on here whiners....as I say don't wish it on them...As we know many of us were as smug and judgmental as they are ....but it's just a matter of time..

  This person has been on the Topix dub forum for years trolling under a different name. He implies that everyone in his congregation knows he thinks the GB are imbeciles but he's so super special that nobody gives him grief over it.
  
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
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  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  A mass exodus will be interpreted as a sign that the wheat and the weeds have been fully separated and now they are definitely "the truth" and a spiritual paradise.

  You have to think like them. This will help them.
  
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  Mass disassociation pact...

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any takers?

  we can pick a date and pull the plug?

  lol .

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  This is a really bad idea. The best way to work against the machinations of the Watchtower is to always have agents of truth within.

  Remember, the Watchtower and its clergymen are the real enemies of truth and freedom, so you need to think like them if you want to defeat them. An exodus of people who aren't supporting them monetarily or vocally will help them far more than hurt them.
  
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  Was Jehovah 40 years early

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  2. bible

  here's a question for all you bible students out there, both critics and apologists: in 1513 bce the israelites were said to be in the wilderness, without food, so jeh gave them miraculous manna to eat.

  exodus 16:35 says they ate it for 40 years.

  the funny thing is that a year after they began eating manna, the bible book of leviticus, which wts says was written in 1512, records a mind-numbing litany of rules and regulations regarding sacrifices that were to be made at the tabernacle, which had just recently been put into use.

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  http://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Leviticus.html

  Date of Writing: The Book of Leviticus was written between 1440 and 1400 B.C.
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  Escaping Indoctrination - Faith Isn't a Virtue.

  by cofty in

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  the unknown writer of the gospel of john put the following words in jesus' mouth, "blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.".

  persuading countless generations that it is a virtue to believe incredible things on insufficient evidence, is one of religion's cleverest tricks.. the more incredible the claim; the more flimsy the evidence; the stronger the belief; the greater the virtue.. this is the exact opposite of how we operate in every other aspect of our lives.. rational people must demand objective evidence for everything they are asked to believe.

  "extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence".. leaving the dogmatic claims of the watchtower is only a first step.

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  Searril - I can't thank you enough for your thoughtful and profound contribution.

  You're welcome. What the person wrote was correct, and I agreed with her.