We can get LULU.com to publish it.
I think i have to learn a bit of photoshop. cos i am planning of making an anti JW magazine. i will probably call it AWAKENED. what do you think?
watchtower says 607 bce.
i decided to dig into this matter myself at the public library yesterday.
i examined every book i could find that contained facts about jerusalem.
step right up close ladies and gents.. listen up!!.
are ya fat?
ugly?
@Janet B :
1) Personally, at this stage of your life after seeing all you have observed thus far, do you believe the bible is the true, inspired instrument from Almighty God that must be observed? (You know, that's how many JWs that follow the WTBTS see things.)
2) Do you believe Jehovah and Jesus are benevolent rulers, that wish to provide everlasting benefits for mankind? (Something that all JWs believe too.)
for just this the WTB$ is guilty and would be held accountable someday. For all the pain, deciet, agony they made people go through. I have never been a JW, i have never felt being afiliated with a particular christian group meant being closer to God. I have always believed in the bible to be the Word of God and adhered to it. I have always known it to be all i need, but that doesnt take away my joy and freedom in this life. i live everyday of my life in contentment and look forward to the coming of Jesus Christ. See thats all what there is to it.
step right up close ladies and gents.. listen up!!.
are ya fat?
ugly?
Terry, i have to applaude you for the man you are after i read your tragic post about u and your wife, real sadening but envouraging too.
to be fair, translating the bible is a huge undertaking, and in doing so, there are bound to be mistakes, or even limits to a committee's knowledge.
obviously, we cannot read the hearts of the four translators of the new world translation committee to know when they consciously or subconsciously altered renderings in to support doctrinal bias.
but more and more, i do come across things that feel askew to me.
@Leolaia: thanks for your reference. now off to reading it.
"do not suppose that i have come to bring peace to the earth.
i did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
for i have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.".
@Keyser soze: But then I would ask him why he would allow the earth to become corrupted with so much evidence to the contrary. After all, he does want everyone to believe, right? Is he incompetent, or just an asshole?
how is it God's fault that the whole earth has become corrupted? arent we the ones who bring all these evil upon ourselves? Just look at all the evil intentions of man, how he has allowed the devil to corrupt him to seek his own self independence from God.
to be fair, translating the bible is a huge undertaking, and in doing so, there are bound to be mistakes, or even limits to a committee's knowledge.
obviously, we cannot read the hearts of the four translators of the new world translation committee to know when they consciously or subconsciously altered renderings in to support doctrinal bias.
but more and more, i do come across things that feel askew to me.
@jonathan : excellent post.
@Leolaia: i suppose the NWT rendering is biased because it justifies their view on the subject of Christ rather than being a viable option as to all the other renderings. Perhaps we might want to look up the defination of bias to be clear. If we look at all the translations 1 :8 we can clearly see that even though the choice of words are different they all have a basic understanding .
New International Version(©1984)
But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But concerning The Son, he said, “Your throne, oh God, is to the eternity of eternities. A straight scepter is the scepter of your Kingdom.”
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But unto the Son he says, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom.
The fact that the NWT purposefuly chose words which would ONLY support their doctrine of Christ shows outright bias
to be fair, translating the bible is a huge undertaking, and in doing so, there are bound to be mistakes, or even limits to a committee's knowledge.
obviously, we cannot read the hearts of the four translators of the new world translation committee to know when they consciously or subconsciously altered renderings in to support doctrinal bias.
but more and more, i do come across things that feel askew to me.
KJV FTW!. That is the only one i can call a translation, those ones like NIV, NKJW, NWT are definitely different versions.
"do not suppose that i have come to bring peace to the earth.
i did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
for i have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.".
@Designs : Has any man ever seen God, if not how then do we become JW's?. i thought we were supposed to be witnesses of Jesus Christ? Those WT guys are insane.
"do not suppose that i have come to bring peace to the earth.
i did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
for i have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.".
@Prodigalson: If "faith" in Christ or "accepting" Christ or "believing" in Christ, the MAN, as you say, is the only way to salvation, then what of the approximately 5 billion who are not Christians, and never will be?
That is not for us any man to decide, our duty as christians is to preach the message of salvation through Christ to the world, it does not matter whether they listen or not. Christ said the end will come when His message has been preached throuout the world and thats what we wait now.
Or let's take the 2 billion or so who DO claim to be Christian and yet are hypocrites....
well you said it yourself right?. Jesus said in revelation, you have to be hot or cold, and 1 man cannot serve 2 masters. The fact that one calls himself a christian does not make him one, the way he lives does.
Not to mention, what does getting "saved" mean, and what is the consequence of NOT getting "saved"?
like i said earlier, the salvation Christ is offering us now is for eternal life. And the promise of a new heaven and earth. Now from the scriptures we know the consequences for the devil and his angels who rebelled in heaven - Eternal Fire. So just figure out what happens to those reject Christ even after they have been given the chance to salvation.
Is God going to determnine the fate of people based on whether or not they accepted what's written in a very poorly written book full of errors, since this information or prrof of his existence is nowhere else to be found?
To call the bible a poorly written book full of errors is absurd. Its the word of God, see the thing is if God came down and told some of you he created the world in six literal days you would still not believe him, cos from a human perspective it is impossible. But nothing is impossible for God.
Again you do realise that the bible is also meant to serve as a guide/reproof to us. It talks about the lives of people who have lived before us and the choices/consequencies they made/faced.
Before i end this, let me say, that some people who are/were ingorant about Jesus/God are going to live their judgement (read revelations), unlike those who know/knew him who would be judged according to acceptance of christ.
this is topic is to discuss where we are headed as humans as far as evolution is concerned.
what possible future awaits us.
i am posting this video to help my cause.
@NewChapter: was it nice or accurate of me to try and argue that religion pushes one to bestiality? I don't even know if there is any truth in the above argument, I made it up. Just like you are making it up
Well i would say since religion is mostly about morality and beneficial conducts(depends on who is benefiting here) i dont think it would push for beastiality.It should rather be against it.
On the other hand evolution does not encourage morality, i mean its by accident and some random/natural processes right? so what has evolution got to argue about beastiality. Now i suppose there are some species even humans can mate with to reproduce no? if then woudnt that be the way to go? Well i am making this up too.