Right metatron , our family feels the same way about it.
Great list Terry, most of us here couldn't have written it better!
Good point, onemore; those who follow truth are humble.
the more i read about the kool aid watchtower articles and assembly programs, the more i wonder if most of this reactionary garbage is just triggered by the emotions of thugs like losch and largely unrelated to general witness malaise.. sure, reading 'apostate' blogs or being too chummy with your df'd kids may increase witness disaffiliation.
but by far, that doesn't begin to capture the core reasons why witnesses are drifting away and, more importantly, it suggests that the governing nazis are grossly blind to how much of a facade their cult has become.
for every witness eating with their 'faded away' kids, there are five others who are smoking, viewing porn, drinking, and acting like 'worldly people' outside of the kingdom hall.
Right metatron , our family feels the same way about it.
Great list Terry, most of us here couldn't have written it better!
Good point, onemore; those who follow truth are humble.
i recieved a letter from my jw friend a few days ago who encouraged me to return to the organisation.
she quoted the following scripture, and although i think its a great one, the jw view of it is twisted.. lord, whom shall we go away to?
(john 6:66-69) this is the one organization he is using" (wt 75, 9/1, p.531).
Listening to Jesus, and learning from his apostles; are much more accurate than following any religion.
True worship is not confined to a nation, priesthood, or religious order. Christ ended all of that.
The disciples traveled to home congregations, encouraged true believers, and wrote letters.
These were independent of Jerusalem and Rome, and responsible for their own faith and practices.
Even evangelists like Paul weren't subject to a pope figure (Peter), or a GB, they just gave suggestions.
Jesus is where two or three pray; that' "Home Worship", not the KH or any other part of Babylon the Great!
http://revelatoryawakening.wordpress.com/conductin-meetings-page-3/
i would like some more enlightened beings than me to thrash this out.. to start the ball rolling with my small intellect.
i was always taught from my jw days that nothing came from nothing,and i accepted that.. all of creation had a start,and reproduced itself according to it`s kind according to genesis.
and of course we now know their are life forms that are a-sexual that reproduce.
I find pop science more entertaining than the current syfi moves at the cinemas!
Black holes, string theory, and dark matter; what could be more exciting?
It's no wonder the big bang theory is "the best bang for the buck" in the media.
It's been over a decade since I've seen any reference to the multi dimension aspect
of the physical universe's beginning. Scientists describe it as having 12 to 19 dimensions at play
during its initial explosion! From that, it cools down to 9 to 7; where space and time are non-existent.
Imagine the power it took to pull that off! Now think;
The One who did it must have the ability to live within a multi-dimensional plain,
without the normal constraints of time-space. Hence; God!
this has been a question i have asked over and over even when i was a very devout jw.
please do not get me wrong in thinking that i am trying to be mean or cruel or unkind to those who have mental illness, that is not in the least where i am going with this.
what i mean is i think it is cruel to send them door to door, it puts way to much stress on them and it looks bad for the name jehovah.. it seemed that in every hall i have ever been in there were some people who were extremely mentally ill. there have always been some in every hall who were schizophrenics or suffered major depression, or other forms of mental illness.
"Great darkness' 'befalls' all "false prophets,"
given enough time; this happens to all of "Babylon the Great!"
The WT, though; does have allot of average to "aware' individuals.
But since they serve a GB that's concerned about numbers,
it mostly goes to drawing in those who don't think for themselves,
or people who love participating in aggressive cliques!
i read the ray franz book but witnesses just see the scripture about going "house to house".
how would you help a witness understand the reality?.
Yes godrulz ; but the KJV has also become a "false god", so what do we do about that?
i never would have suuspect this board would do so much for me.
when i registered i had been out of the wts for about 15 years.
the first 10 years i remained a true believer.
Hi Lady Lee; how 've you been lately? Our family's doing pretty good at present.
I would like to get your opinion on something. Since; "The Society" is all about 'money' and false pretences...
do you think that the WT will fall along with Babylon the Great, or later as an anti-christ religion of the Devil?
PS: Does anyone else have any ideas?
can you identify with rts?
web sites cropping up on this growing problem.. http://journeyfree.org/rts/.
http://www.spiritualabuse.com/.
Here's some sites from former Jehovah's Witnesses:
http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com/
http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/
http://www.freeminds.org/psychology/mind-control/
These are from some experts in the field of RTS :
http://lee_hardiman.tripod.com/home.html
http://www.spiritualabuse.com/
May you walk with "the true God" YHWH;
As He comforts you "in your time of distress."
http://revelatoryawakening.wordpress.com/start-true-worship-page-2/
another thing about the publishers files is the high minded attitudes .
that local elders have.
they are presented as secret files for elders .
Thanks' Baltar; my family thinks those files are nothing more than worthless "crap" as well!
Only HR enthusiasts can appreciate the usury value of this type of info. for their abusive techniques.
Thank you NY Rebel; the org. looks like a pyramid scheme with those who get the most "numbers",
being rewarded with "privileges" (AKA; ascendancy)! As a corp. promotes the best salespeople.
Keep up the good work guys! "The fine fight of the faith", the eastern Yesuah's disciples; not NY cult!
http://revelatoryawakening.wordpress.com/disciples-meeting-found-page-4/
out of interest, i have just been scanning through the four latest available watchtower study articles (july thru october 2011) and in doing so i am reading them objectively for the first time.
i have been shocked, outraged and amazed by some of my findings.. as one example, take the article "a history-making meeting" from the august 15th watchtower, 2011. the article, beginning on page 18, discusses the 126th annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society, and begins with a summary of the opening talk by governing body member stephen lett.
it concludes the highlights of his talk in this way:.
"The ascendant beings, the Ori need your [prayers].
The more humans they can get to worship them,
the more power they receive!" - StarGate -1
i was just glancing at the back of the october 15th watchtower and the questions from readers.
the question under discussion is "what should i do when i have a question about something i read in the bible or when i need advice about a personal problem?".
the article goes on to discuss how we should consult the watch tower publications index among the many 'tools' that have been provided by the faithful and discreet slave whenever we have a question that is not directly discussed in the publications.. one statement really caught my eye, because it's the first time i've ever seen the society actually dissuade people from writing in with questions.
Knowledge will increase for mankind in the time of the end;
but for Babylon the Great, what knowledge she has will dry up.