my family has been out (inactive no meeting attendance or field service) for just over two years..
weve made many changes in our lives, including with our personal appearances (tattoos, piercings etc) that are a pretty obvious sign that we arent going back any time soon.
our families went through a period of time about a year ago when they made a lot of threats that if we left the truth, they wouldnt even be able to share a meal with us, they would stay loyal to jehovah etc.
Isnt it approximately 2/3 of all born in JW kids leave the religion?
And they are getting it ALL thrown at them 24 hours a day! I wouldnt worry that much of what is shared by your family will stick in any permanent way.
In view of that, I would go with DOCs wise take on things.
warning, novel ahead:.
after a few months of lurking on this site, i've decided to take the plunge...i don't really care so much about introducing myself, but somehow there is some relief in the thought of getting my little story out there, just getting it out of my system.
i am the oldest of 5 kids.
So great to meet you.
Its all ahead of you now!
take a look at this caleb & sophia rc badge for children.. .
what's the motivation to make special childrens' badges?
i smell indoctrination!.
Maybe the person will get reprimanded from the same K.H. platform where they danced to Pharrell Williams song.
A touch of irony?
if the celebrity paparazzi can openly photograph the ongoings of the entertainment people, what would be the legal ramifications if any, if someone staked out the "higher-ups" of the wt and photographed their day to day activities outside of any golden compounds.
do the directors of the corporations like don adams have personal residences outside of bethel?
what kind of cars do they drive?
I think it would be interesting!
I have heard about the big white Suburbans pulling up at Patterson and the entourages (GB and wives and friends) climbing out and going in to their apartments.
This was from someone who lives there.
Pictures would be worth a thousand words.
i have been searching pro and anti arguments for trinity, and found out there are anti-trinitarians who believe jesus did not preexist before his human life.
and i am thinking, it kind of makes sense.
what if yahweh created a second adam.
paradisebeauty,
I always admire people who think outside the box and think for themselves. No matter what conclusion you arrive at, its the journey that is oh so important.
My thought on your topic is that the idea of a like for a like - perfect man for perfect man - Jesus=Adam never made sense to me.
The reason was because Jesus was so superior IF he was created first and co-creator of everything that followed. How could he prove the argument you outlined above as to being the perfect Adam? He wouldnt even be in the same league! So I agree with that part.
Ive had the same thoughts about the death and ressurection that werent really all that remarkable if he was guaranteed ahead of time to only have parts of 3 days to be "gone" or dead.
If that is the case, many people have sacrificed more and died harder. So how can that be so significant?
Not trying to go off topic but one thought kind of lead to another....
the governing body are fighting for corporation survival here, and now and they are only going to get worse as the child molestation lawsuits must be paid out so expect more in real eastate sell offs and kingdom hall scemes to rip off the rank and file for every single penny they can get out of them praying on their extreme gulibilty to the limits another words to the breaking point.. this type of double dealing with the hard earned contributions given to support the kingdom halls will very quickly back fire on them causeing more extreme measures to pay the plaintiffs in child molestation lawsuits.
it is a snow ball rolling down the hill..
as with the scribes and pharisees, there are a number of unwritten rules that witnesses are supposed to follow.
here's a couple : "worldly" kids in society depictions are shown quite often wearing their baseball caps backwards.
jehovah's witness youths would not want to imitate that "look".
No staying after school for projects - bad association!
No making friends with worldly kids when you live at home - unless they agree to study and/or attend meetings with you.
No decorating with corn stalks at your door in the fall - too worldy/resembles Halloween
Heres an old one that had since quite being practiced but used to be:
not putting your name on a gift at a baby/wedding shower - considered a lack of humility to show what you gave.
so i went out today with my broken leg and got accosted by an old lady, with some magazines.. it was my first ever encounter with a jw in ten years, and i had said 'i know you are jw's, i'm not interested thank you.
" twice.....then she started talking about my broken leg and how wonderful we are made and how amazing the healing process is.... and that's when it all started...."i used to be a bethelite pioneer, now i'm an atheist doctor...".
she was with me a good 30 mins, her elder husband left very annoyed but she stayed, and she was dying to hear everything i spurted out, despite aggressively defending every point, from military engines to paedophilia.
having endured three days of dashing attempts at further indoctrination, i feel the need to write up some of the stuff i left with.
it is just good therapy.. right away the change was noticeable in the air.
the assembly hall in la feria, tx still smells like new.
Great review Startrek.
It sounds like they are addressing all of their problems
doubt
doubters
doubting
i've been doing a lot of research about mind control, cults etc which led me to look into the world and beliefs of mormons.
the similarities between jw's and mormons are staggering!
it's almost a carbon copy which only a few differences.. did the jw's set out to copy them i wonder?
Steve, dont they also have their version of Caleb and Sophia and wasnt theirs put out first?
Seems like we had a thread all about that last year?
