i haven't seen anything about this in the news here in the u.s. do the jehovah's witnesses here know what is going on over there?
Im afraid Doc is right. Even my one Witness friend who is somewhat of a child abuse activist within the congregation hasnt heard a word.
I think it highlights the value of sites like this. If not for being a member here, I would have missed all of it.
sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.
i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.
he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.
Hi Allison123!
My suggested question:
Do you think that policy will change now that the need for change has become clear?
they are told that persecution is coming and that all will see it.. they are told that there will be lies in the media about us.. they even give the old brother king interview about brothers being jailed.
the last sentence tony the tiger damn near screams at the camera to stay faithful you integrity keepers... he knows your fathers and husbands may be going to jail.
this talk is all about damage control.. .
Thank you Leavingonthenextplane!
Im a little slow on the uptake : )
they are told that persecution is coming and that all will see it.. they are told that there will be lies in the media about us.. they even give the old brother king interview about brothers being jailed.
the last sentence tony the tiger damn near screams at the camera to stay faithful you integrity keepers... he knows your fathers and husbands may be going to jail.
this talk is all about damage control.. .
Did he state that "your fathers and husbands will be going to jail" or is that a subjective statement by the OP?
Im confused.
confidentiality.
how many times does ron de rooy state the importance of jehovah's witnesses being confidential?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qucn5azi5gk&index=17&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui.
Oubliette
This is just another example of classic Orwellian doublespeak on the part of the WTBTS and its representatives.
In JW-land "confidentiality" really means: cover-up
That is exactly right.
One evidence of the accuracy of that statement is the fact that elders talk amongst themselves even to other elders in other Halls.
There are guidelines supposedly about "only giving the details necessary" but as we all know, in the strange workings of the inner world of JWism, elders do what they want.
Part of "doing what they want" is the unbridled gossiping" that is done by elders to elders after meetings, at Regional and Circuit and Special Assemblies and on phones late at night.
i have listened to segments of the hearing.. i am really impressed with the way the rc are well informed about jw procedure and the 'flock book'.. does anyone know how the rc got so clued up?
are they just that good at what they do?
(not saying they're not).. have 'mentally diseased apostates(tm)' been of use to the rc?.
duh! (smacking own head...)
The victims! Of course! There is the perfect ex JW or "in" JW to tell them first hand isnt there?
Thanks for mentioning that, i had completely overlooked it- thus the head smack (ouch~)
hi i am delighted to be apart of the community.. having left the witnesses one of my first challenges was my believe in god.
naturally.. i have concluded that i am alive and conscious.
now my intuition tells me god exists, but my analytical thinking tells me god does not exist.
Hi the Rebel,
There are many viewpoints here. I would say as many as there are eyebrows!
I picked eyebrows (instead of the usual belly buttons) because I think each of us at some point in this journey reached a point where we held more than one opinion.
It is human nature to rush in to a nice tight well structured view point. It is because we feel more secure then.
But free falling is not all bad so dont rush, the worst is over, the journey has begun.
firstly, thank you to anyone who is in support of this rc.
no one has shown anything but great interest and empathy for those who were abused.. i don't know who this simonsays character is though and i find him to be very rude and ignorant.
it takes all kinds to make the world go round i suppose.. today i was contacted by a staff member of the royal commission.
Wow. This is such a valuable post I will probably keep coming back to bump it if it doesnt stay topside (I bet it will though).
You did a brave thing. I dont know if I could have made that call. I am in open mouthed admiration of you.
How do you feel now? Are you ok?
i have listened to segments of the hearing.. i am really impressed with the way the rc are well informed about jw procedure and the 'flock book'.. does anyone know how the rc got so clued up?
are they just that good at what they do?
(not saying they're not).. have 'mentally diseased apostates(tm)' been of use to the rc?.
So punk, do you think they have ex Jws helping them interpret the internal language of the Org.?
That does make a lot of sense.
last week we had the cos visit and i wanted to share my experiences with you.
some background info on me, i knowttatt and am fully awake, my wife also knows my doubts and read a few things on the internet but she is still 100% commited to the truth, saying everything on the apostate sites are lies.
so right now i am in just to keep the status quo.
I dont think you were being set up at all.
A set up would by necessity imply that there is some type of plan.
Instead what we are seeing is mass belief that "we are Gods chosen and therefore right." thus the bafflement and confusion.
There are many good people in the middle/lower Org. I think the crap flows straight from the top and who it hits and how thick it coats them is highly individualized.
