no doubt we noticed the royal commission ask vin toole (and i think terry o'brien) about the expression "theocratic warfare"?.
they were asked to explain it and what is meant to witnesses.. vin outrightly lied when he said he "had never heard of that expression!".
i remember him using that term in conversations and talks many times!!
The whole idea of dragging a God in to any earthly "warfare" is so presumptive no matter who it is.
The fact that JWs feel a situation is so dire as to require that kind of action when in fact they have created the actual situation themselves is beyond head shakingly stupid.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
we haven't been to a meeting or jw event in several years.
we have been following the rc closely.
it is fascinating!
Jaidubdub2 hours agoBtw - I'm not attending meetings, have been inactive for several years but still socialise with a small selected group of jw's occasionally.
I have worked very hard to position myself in the same spot. So far so good. Really nice to meet you and thanks for sharing your "on site" impressions for someone like me far away in the States.
shout out to jwfacts.. just saw the drum.
excellent job !
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That is the best independent interview I have seen. I have been looking and looking since the RC began their work for something to "capsulize" things that I could use to show a very skeptical person who really does want to leave the Org. You have provided just what I need Paul.
Thank you!
the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).
the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.
that is all..
Theyve already done something.
Awareness is something.
Starting a world wide internet conversation is something.
Standing up for what is right and leaving a paper trail for other to build upon is something.
That is all.
sorry as this topic may have been covered many times but any thoughts or links to other topics on how the pro-jw websites are commenting on this.. rub a dub.
On another pro site this comment was made, I guess some dont like the shenanigans of the "branch boys"
quote;
We are supposed to be "Ambassadors of Christ" ... not legal weasels for Christ ....
sorry as this topic may have been covered many times but any thoughts or links to other topics on how the pro-jw websites are commenting on this.. rub a dub.
JWLeaks,
for some reason, that link isnt working.
hello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.
it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.
it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.
we haven't been to a meeting or jw event in several years.
we have been following the rc closely.
it is fascinating!
sorry as this topic may have been covered many times but any thoughts or links to other topics on how the pro-jw websites are commenting on this.. rub a dub.
Very amusing that on the one pro site I check they were sadly admitting the elders did a really bad job. They thought the same of the expert speaking on the Orgs behalf and then the thread just dried up! Not a post until the last 2 days when they started crowing about how great the branch overseer is doing in testimony.
NOW they are talking again. I just thought that was strange that they clammed up when it got bad and then got unstuck when they felt less ashamed of how they were being made to look as a group.
The thread has a lot of emotional folks who have tales to tell of their own abuse so people are trying to be respectful of that and there seems to be an attempt at honest discussion, Some have even mentioned the lies and deception on the part of JW testimony.
this is when all the pieces of the puzzle come together.
many thanks to simon for creating a forum which allows us to get a clear sense of what is happening.
without this forum i would still be wandering in the wilderness.
So Simon, how does it feel to know that you have played a role in making so many peoples lives less painful and in fact better?
I have read your story of the Org and what lead you to the creation of this site and while I hate that you had to experience negative things at the hands of JWs, I am impressed with what you did with the experience. You truly have turned lemons in to lemonade as the old saw goes.
Thank you for all of it. So many of us are now reaping the good results of your hard work.
