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  Recent study links processed meats to cancer

  by duc007az in

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  so a recent study says processed meats are just as dangerous as cigarettes when it comes to cancer.

  the wtbs has had a long time stance that smoking is a df offense.

  my question is if there's proof beyond doubt, why doesn't the wtbs make eating processed meats a df offense?.

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  millie210

  I think the word in the study to focus on is the word "processed" not the word meat,
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  "Her words suggest................."

  by RedPillPopper in

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  first time posting.

  i've lurked for about 2 years.

  30+yr convert.

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  millie210

  I think I probably should have started a thread about the manipulation of minds at the book study myself.

  I decided to search first and found this thread so I just tacked on a post.

  It is pathetic that what RRP, the original poster. wrote about was a Watchtower article and that is all the new study book is.....all those articles bound up and called a book that will now be studied for two years or more.

  Incredible.
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  "Her words suggest................."

  by RedPillPopper in

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  first time posting.

  i've lurked for about 2 years.

  30+yr convert.

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  millie210

  I took an elderly friend to the meeting last night. The study is in the "Imitate Their Faith" book which is merely a compilation of previous short stories about Bible characters that were featured in a series of Watchtower articles.

  They waste no time beginning their spinning and supposition with the Cain/Abel story. They launch a theory that perhaps Eve had the prophecy of Gen. 3:15 in mind when she uttered the words "I have produced a man with the aid of Jehovah".

  They slyly introduce this thought with the phrase "her words suggest..." this is what she thought.

  Her words in no way suggest anything of the sort but they dont let that fact interfere whatsoever as they continue to build on it but switch tactics and ask the statement they had just made but now its in question form:

  "Did Eve think she was the woman mentioned in Genesis 3 and Cain was the seed"?

  They could have just as easily asked was Eve a unicorn? Because at this point they have just turned it in to a question...no liability/accountability there, right?

  They then go on to make some strong statements prefaced with "if"

  If she fed Cain such ideas growing up, they did his imperfect pride no good."

  Then they mention Abel and his names meaning. The meaning is supposedly "breath" "air" "vapor". This word can be used as vanity also as it is later in Ecclesiastes. So guess which meaning they leap on? Breath? Nope.

  Vanity. They then make the jaw dropping statement followed by the sneaky question:

  Did that choice of a name reflect lower expectations as if they put less hope in Abel than in Cain?

  We can only guess"

  
  

  Now that this groundwork has been laid (on absolutely nothing) they warn parents not to "fail" with their children like Eve did by fostering pride and ambition instead of love for Jehovah (apparently these are the only two choices in child rearing) lest you end up with a murderer for a son.

  Of course by this time the informational damage has been done. No one discounts everything above when they see that final statement. Instead they get the heavy message that what Cain did is Eves fault and it was due to bad parenting which is defined as NOT teaching your child to love Jehovah but to have pride and ambition instead.

  I guess its because my eyes are so open now but I see this SO clearly and I was completely dumbfounded at the audacity with which they do it AND with the apparent nonchalance of the audience who parroted back comments without any seeming shock whatsoever.

  Oh, and one final though. They dont have their definition of Abels name very accurately rendered either if you look at outside sources.

  Im so glad I got asked to go and that I went. It reinforced why NOT going is such a good idea. In my search for truth, they merely snarl up the process. Such a waste of time.
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  Fighting about college

  by cognac in

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  my nephew is a sweet, smart, thoughtful person.

  he wants to go to college.. normally, a mom would be proud to have a son like this.. nope, not a friggin jw mom.

  apparently, he's being selfish to both her and jehovah.

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  Its nice that he has you as an aunt Cognac.
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  Full 2015 Annual Meeting Program

  by wifibandit in

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  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plrw9u-n1z2m8peenfmbdxmvbdkum0ce1n.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uppgsfl6o5k.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9j8ivkmkvk.

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  millie210

  I thought the same thing ToesUp!

  He continues by saying how "some at the conventions didnt do this" and says "we will pray for you".

  Seriously?

  This is what is of great import in todays world?
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  Fighting about college

  by cognac in

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  my nephew is a sweet, smart, thoughtful person.

  he wants to go to college.. normally, a mom would be proud to have a son like this.. nope, not a friggin jw mom.

  apparently, he's being selfish to both her and jehovah.

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  millie210

  cognac
  Cripes, what is she going to do when he gets his first boyfriend???

  Maybe that will help her (by necessity) to put college in perspective?

  At some point we all have to become our own person. She is going to have to come to terms now or later, seems like.
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  I'm not religious I'm spiritual?

  by Joliette in

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  how do you guys feel when you hear people say this?

  whenever i tell people that i'm not religious, a humanist, they said i'm not religious either, i'm spiritual.

  i consider myself to be a humanist, and i can't tell you guys how happy i am being a humanist.

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  millie210

  I have often wondered what people thought/did to address what today is called a "spiritual" side in ancient times. I am talking waaay back when people were basically isolated and traditions had yet to form.

  To address the OPs question, I think that statement is like a lot of others...someone said it and it sounded good and so everyone started saying it and now it has very little meaning or at the very least, it is a highly homogenized statement.
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  Redefining "fair"

  by wifibandit in

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  in light of all the reassignments, i can't help but feel that this directed to those who gave their lives and now are being kicked out.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uou-fbkg0y.

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  This advice is coming from the people who took Ray Franz out of the 2015 Yearbook account of the work in the Dominican Republic?
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  This takes the cake

  by Sour Grapes in

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  today during the public talk the speaker said that satan was behind the new modern phones, which are like mini computers, so that the world would have easy access to pornography..

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  Uh oh speaker............

  It takes one to know one.
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  Scale of 1 to 10. How did/do you rate the meetings!

  by Truthexplorer in

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  1. boring as s***e 2. extremely boring 3. boring as hell 4. boring.

  5. slightly boring 6. not bad.

  7. fair.

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  millie210

  Ditto - a 2.