TheOldHippie
I wonder why this should be so interesting? One murderer among thousands in the USA. What makes this one so special? Is it because he is a JW? What about the Catholics or Evangelicals or Agnostics or Atheists? Why specifically target this one?
millie210
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Live in the U.S.? Tune into Dateline Friday evening, April 15th, to see a report about the Colorado Candelario murder trial (he's a JW).
by AndersonsInfo inralph and pam candelario were active jws in colorado.
ralph murdered pam.
professor jim penton was invited to appear at the trial last month by the prosecution as an expert witness to answer questions about jws.
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millie210
If your question is genuine and not sarcastic which I assume it is (genuine) perhaps I can help you with an answer,,,Consider the board you are on? I am sure his story would be of little interest on a Catholic, Evangelical, Agnostic or Atheist website.This website is for and about Jehovahs Witnesees. Current/former/ex/about to be/dating/married to/etc - who want to discuss anything JW.I would be shocked to NOT find this being discussed, all things reasonably considered. -
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Circuit Overseer Coming For Lunch – Everything Has to be Perfect
by SAHS inwe have the circuit overseer’s visit this week, and my folks are having him and his wife over for lunch today.
of course, i’m making it a point of hightailing it out of there to have my lunch elsewhere.
when my mom asks me “why don’t you stay and meet him,” i just say, “well, he’s just a man like everybody else.” she says, “well, of course.
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millie210
If they dont want people asking them to autograph Bibles and such - they shouldnt be giving them rock star billing to begin with.
When Morris gave the closing talk at the convention in Atlanta, it began to storm heavily. He said the brothers asked him to announce that everyone should remain in the building for 15 minutes after the closing prayer for their safety in the lightening.
He then said that unlike his big brother he couldnt stay the storm.
JAW DROP!
Did he just SAY that????
Yep. He was joking about Jesus being his big brother who could still a storm but Anthony couldnt.....yet.
It was a puke worthy moment.
That kind of thinking is where the problem of autograph seeking begins.
Like Londo said - classic double think/speak.
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Luke 15:4 Has this ever happened in your congregation?
by pleaseresearch inluke 15:4. new international version.
"suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them.
doesn't he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it?.
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millie210
Seems to me that if this was the true religion, that Levels experience related in his post would be the common one.
Bible principle = elders.
Instead it seems to have been an isolated occurrence of 3 men doing the right thing.
Oh, and they happened to be elders also.
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I have tried really hard to be worldly, for ten years, tried to get worldly friends, and get back with family.
by Sledracer ini am so bad at being worldly, it's not like i gave it a good try, we are just not good at it my husband and i, i see him light up as he has started to read the bible again.
i'm good at being a witness, i am accepted, and hold the same beliefs, i have tried to find somewhere else, if there is a place, why hav'n't jehovah and the angels directed me to it?
thank you for all the loving posts, some of them have been just what i needed.
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millie210
Sledracer,
Being tucked inside a religious structure has its appeal.
Anyone who would deny that is denying the great success organized religions have enjoyed over thousands of years.
It meets a need.
It fills a place.
It gives comfort, friends, guidance and tangibility to group beliefs.
Honestly, I would still be a Witness if it were only the beliefs that were questionable.
I was one of those people who pushed away my doubts by telling myself that the good outweighed the bad.
Then 2 things happened.
One,
a family member of prominence got in to a "situation". Someone was after his head and watching that go down was amazing. I saw a Circuit Overseer lie to Headquarters. There was money involved but I wont bog down in the details. I saw documents that had forged signatures (the forgery was committed by the Presiding Overseer. Bethel sent a committee.
The forgery brother got his hand slapped privately. The C.O got hand slapped privately. The entire body of elders had to get with the wronged party and apologize (again privately). So basically they got up and slandered a good mans name from the platform calling it an "announcement". and when they got called on their shenanigans that could not be handled with an announcement. It had to be handled quietly and "privately".
That is when it hit me that the standards I though were so solid gold were actually done on whim.
I wish I was intellectual enough that I could have left for a "higher" reason but it was just getting smacked in the face with a shovel and seeing that ultimately, no one is flying the plane that gave me permission to walk out.
so after some time and with some urgings of a friend came reason number
Two
I attended what would be the equivalent of an old Tuesday night book study but his one wasnt the Witnesses.
It was the Seventh Day Adventists. I saw a very similar format. Similar belief structure, similar support mechanisms.
That experience )it lasted 3 months) seemed to evaporate the last of the mystique the Witness experience held over me.
To see them have such feet of clay in my #1 and then to see that other groups (and there are many) have as much to offer as they do - which I found in step #2 did a lot to help me.
I think that is why your post resonates so much with me. You are expressing what you think you need to do and that is exactly what you should do.
No one can find your way for you except you.
So go back. See how it works for you.
If it doesnt work you will have clarity as to why.
If it does work - then good.
You deserve to be happy.
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Friends of onacruise
by Onacruise2NephewBoogaloo ini was born into the elastic fact, tract & knock knock club, as it is known to some, but most often you will hear them referred to as "the worst thing i've ever been through.
"i had the typical jw early life of forced compliance by sadistic joy killing narcissists.
i learned early on that 'new light' doesn't come from stifled children and there was no suggestion box at my house.. when i was 6 my parents divorced and my mom quickly remarried and we moved from portland to the oregon coast.
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millie210
Thanks for making me feel like I knew Onacruise personally by reading your words.
This reminds me just how much we say and do NOW can impact people later for the good.
So thanks for that and Im glad youre here.
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Another Newbie
by Drifting Away inhello, i have been lurking for a while, but discovered ttatt for about 8 months now.
i am trying to fade out, problem is i have a big family i would lose if i got df'ed or da,'ed myself.
my wife knows how i feel, and is not thrilled but i cant hide my feelings.
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millie210
Hi Drifting Away,
I completely understand about your being reluctant to say much. Its fine to just lean in to things instead of leap.
Lots of wonderful listening ears and good friends await you here on this forum!
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Whats the one thing
by MrTheocratic injw's are constantly trying to prove they have the truth.
they always point to matthew 24:14 and say "who is accomplishing this work today?
this proves we have the truth and gods backing".. for those of us in this community looking from the other side what is one thing that proves to you that this organization does not have gods backing?
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millie210
Mine would be the overwhelming evidence that elders are not appointed by Holy Spirit.We all know stories about the politics involved in appointments, the rampant abuse of a sexual nature and other types of abuse as well that occurs among these "appointed men".
Once you know they are not appointed by Holy Spirit then you have to wonder who is? The C.O.s that appoint the elders?
Obviously not based on who they appoint....
The headquarters that appoint the C.Os?
Well no...
Then who?
Well that would be nobody.
Nobody is appointed by anyone except mere men.
Its a man made Org posing as being "of God".
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not all JW's are asleep
by Damascus ini am an 'active' jw but i do not agree with most of the doctrines inc blood, baptism, the memorial etc etc.i took the emblems at the memorial because i think we all should recognise and accept jesus' command to remember him.
not for one minute do i think this is only for the so called anointed.
i know it is full of man made error and that my fellow brothers and sisters are in a state of mindless, spiritual unawareness.
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millie210
Damascus, welcme, its nice to meet you.
I am curious, other than the elders , how do the other congregation members treat you? Do you get support there?
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millie210
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1 Corinthians 8:8 and Crayola
by rebel8 inafter working a redonkulously long number of hours exercising my fingers and brain, i decided to take a nice walk--you know, to be healthy.i walked to the drug store to get something for my staff--you know, 'cause i'm cool like that.walgreens forced me to walk down the seasonal aisle, against my will, and purchase 90% off easter candy, using its secret weapon (psychology).as i made my way home on my healthy walk, i was forced to eat what may be in the top 10 of the worst easter candy ever made in the entire multiverse since the beginning of time (and by that, i mean 7001 years ago).the first one had a layer of pink flavored goo topped with white crayolas mixed with sugar.
not satisfying.so obviously i had to have another one to satisfy myself, under extreme duress.
blue topping and crayola.
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millie210
Your original post was an utterly charming read rebel8.
Thank you for making me feel light and spring like and happy, like a kid again!