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  JWs mentioned in NYTimes article about Remote Ecuador Towns Hit by Quake, Contact Was Cut Off for Days

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/world/americas/in-remote-ecuador-towns-hit-by-quake-contact-was-cut-off-for-days.html?_r=1.

  in remote ecuador towns hit by quake, contact was cut off for days.

  by nicholas casey and maggy ayala april 19, 2016 .

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  Im glad the man at the end of the article was able to find his 5 yr old daughter alive under the rubble.
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  Bringing children into this System of Things.

  by Nihilistic Journey in

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  before i left a number of years ago i remember getting bombarded with the message that we shouldn't have children as it wasn't fair to them.

  they would have to grow as conditions got worse during the end.

  is there anything in the literature or was this just through talks.

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  They frowned on childbearing until people ignored them.

  Then they ignored the children - just a token book here or there.

  The children started leaving the Org

  This caused the $$ giving members much angst

  The Org bestirred itself to make Caleb and Sophia videos in an attempt to get ahead of the damage.

  I swear, every thread I read here I am seeing more and more how everything they do is a reaction rather than an action.
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  Where is the Rebel.

  by The Rebel in

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  who cares?.

  the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.

  my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.

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  Um in that case.....

  I will join you in nominating LisaRose!

  (Im far too lazy to be a leader)
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  Any thought behind your " Avatar"

  by The Rebel in

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  i think that's the correct phrase?

  anyway when i first came here, that little picture that "the rebel" hides behind, was a self portrait of a very sad man, who simply had too much knowledge.

  now i feel after 7 months here, i should repaint that " avetor" give some happiness to the eyes, and a contented smile to the lips.. in short my " avetor" was a self portrait of a man with too much knowledge.

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  The idea of elders being like mill stones around peoples necks was in my head at the time I joined.

  I also like the idea of how a mill grinds things down to the essential and valuable part.

  I am in the process of doing that with my spiritual beliefs.
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  Where is the Rebel.

  by The Rebel in

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  who cares?.

  the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.

  my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.

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  rebelfighter
  Never a JW. I came here about 1 year 4 months ago to figure out what JW was all about other then those people who could not read the Absolutely No Soliciting sign at my front door and to figure out the sudden bizarre turn in behavior after 5 years in the "Elder". He never talked about his religion.
  I have learned a lot on this site and jw facts. The ARC was the real eye opener for me. My heart goes out to each of you who have been hurt by this cult. For me I will be here to learn what is going on in the borg, how children and women continue to be abused. I appreciate the Sophie and Caleb videos being shown over here since I refuse to go to the official JW site. I find these videos to be emotional abuse and just reminds me that if I do encounter a JW that talking about ARC is extremely important.
  I have suffered from a lot of abuse in my life so I advocate against both against children and women's abuse and neglect. This has made me a very strong and determined woman.

  I really admire the effort you have put forth to understand a group that are not automatically likeable. I am a big believer in understanding things too.

  I liked reading how you have used this to become a better/stronger person.
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  Where is the Rebel.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
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  who cares?.

  the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.

  my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.

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  FayeDunawayo
  GROUP HUG!!!!
  lol. Millie you know I think you're fabulous ♥.

  Ditto and lol on the group hug!
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  Where is the Rebel.

  by The Rebel in

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  who cares?.

  the first time i was in distress with the watchtower, i was fortunate to find this place.

  my ego thought ,i was somehow special, that my posts were reaching a worldwide audience, and most of all i felt at ease, maybe home is a better word.

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  Yeah, we do.

  I like Rebel too. I like people who think outside the box. People who arent afraid to put their thoughts out there.

  As a matter of fact, this thread is full of comments from posters like that.

  A great thread.
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  Circuit Overseer say. . .

  by Ringo in

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  last night i had to suffer through the bs spouted by the new co. some garbage about the bible transforming us as people.

  he went on and on about how we can look good to people at the hall who see the outside, but the bible will tell us what we are inside.. then he proceeded to use a few select verses to say sex is bad and so is the desire for it.

  a healthy bank account or savings is wrong, shouldn't have that either.

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  So desire for sex is bad. Healthy finances is bad and a hunting gun is bad.

  Sounds like in his Tuesday afternoon meeting with the COBE and/or Secretary, they had a list of local needs for him to address.

  Or maybe those are circuit wide "problems".

  I will restrain myself from commenting on who created the sexual desire that is wrong in his little scenerio.......

  is this C.O. young or old?
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  A world without religion? Any different?

  by punkofnice in

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  i wonder what it would be like, without any religion in the world?

  i don't think it would be like 'imagine' by lennon.. i don't believe it will ever happen.

  even if it did, people are the same.

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  Hi my dear buddy punk!

  When I saw your thread title my first thought was John Lennons "Imagine".

  Great minds and all that!

  So now I have to think of something else to say since you already mentioned that! LOL

  But seriously, I dont think people keep things around for thousands of years that dont serve some kind of purpose.

  So religion meets some kind of societal purpose.

  It does seem that as society evolves and becomes more capable that religions purpose is fading somewhat though. Perhaps people are meeting that need in other ways?
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

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  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother
  Anyway, what other options are there that follow ALL the bible, not just parts that suit them? Which other option apart fromJWs fullfill Jesus words that this is how you will know my true followers those who have love amung themselves?
  Trying to find an alternative to JW's. After many years, I still can not find any other option that comes as close to ALL the Bible as JWs do.
  If there is an option that I have missed please tell me here, I would like to look into it deeply.

  Try the Seventh Day Adventists.

  I happened to do this by accident one might say. I had a friend who was physically unable to take herself and I agreed to take her.

  I viewed it as when Daniel took that high court official to worship his God. Remember that account in the Bible?

  So I would accompany her and since i was a favor it wasnt a complete "waste" of my time or so I thought.

  What I found once there was that it felt incredibly similar to being at a book study. If it is that feeling that you are seeking from an organized group - that can be found.

  They have similar views about holidays with the BIG difference that they allow families to decide how much how little they will participate rather than tightly controlling herd behavior.

  They have their own flawed date (like the JW 1914) but they are not floundering awkwardly with it. They have moved on (unlike JWs).

  Here is another biggie! Have you heard of the Blue Zones? Places around the world where people inexplicably naturally live long and healthy?

  The SDA are the only religious group that made it into that listing. The ones in Loma Linda Ca. have exceptional demographics.

  It is believed to be their diet and strong religious community and outlook.

  My experience helping my friend only lasted two months.

  I have not attended since.

  But I did get a lot to mull over during my brief time there.

  The people are strong and full of purpose. They feel they create their religion - not the leadeship dictating it. They view the leadership as there to lead. Very simply.

  The people are healthy. Never mind their dietary vicissitudes, they are not on anti depressants or meds of any kind that have to do with depression or anxiety.

  The contrast with my local Kingdom Hall was tremendous. All our elders minus one are on medication for mood purposes (versus an illness medication like insulin as an example) ditto the congregation. People are overweight and live for the mid morning MeDonalds run in field service. Or the "Sunday feed the speaker ritual.

  So same religious format, similar culture, extremely different measurable results in quality of life.

  As a JW I remember we were told how the Jews laws protected them physically as well as spiritually. So why would "Gods People" today be among the most unhealthy emotionally and physically as a group?

  If a person with no previous bias were to go to a JW meeting and then go to a SDA meeting and you asked them which group seems to be benefiting the most?

  There would be an obvious answer.

  That was my casual observation that I didnt go seeking.

  What it tells me are that there are religions out there meeting as many needs as the JWs are.

  Our problem is we were taught that is not possible and we believed it.

  But my eyes dont lie to me and I saw what I saw.

  Why dont you look around? See what your eyes tell you minus what you have been taught?

  You might be glad you did?