a bit of an update, last weekend was my great grandmothers funeral, now, she was never a jw, and never was going to be, no matter how hard my mother, and grandmother tried to preach to her, she was the type of person that would kindly accept a wt or a book, but she wouldn't bother reading them.. anyways, she was a great wonderful and inspiring woman, the funeral was extremely sad, she had been a school teacher for over 35 years and a member of various clubs, so there were a lot of folks besides family that attended.. well, anyways i was there and so was my jw mother, stepfather, and grandmother, we were cordial, didn't talk about anything jw related because, it was great grandmothers funeral, not really a time to discuss how i am an evil sinner, or how i've escaped the org by avoiding df'ing, right?
wrong, as i'm sitting waiting for the service to begin, a lady shows up, now- i have known this woman for a long time, apparently she baby sat me as a small child, (like i remember?
) so she isn't someone i was ever close with, but knew of her or when she was around would say hi to and make small talk.. to give you a tid-bit on her personality though, she is one of those crazy jw's.. she claims to have been possessed by a demon, very very wacky on the prophesies, or gb talks, etc.
Great posts here already Raven. Does it help to know you handled yourself with dignity and class? Your great grandmother would be so proud of you.
I offer you my condolences for your loss and my admiration for your restraint.
May the good memories seep in and wash out the brief encounter with crazy lady.
i truly don't understand the mindset of a troll.
i know it's been explained, but i still don't get it.
it is hard to distinguish between a troll and a jw apologist at times because the reactions are very similar.
They are the same people that in Kindergarten were pulling hair and running around the room during quiet time
just seen reference to a recent letter read to congregations about this, anyone got more info please?.
Thank you for the link respectful observer!
just seen reference to a recent letter read to congregations about this, anyone got more info please?.
I read the same thing here somewhere on the forum that a letter was read to the congregation this week?
There is a good chance this is confusion on my part.
(a very good chance! )
inactive.......hmmm, what an interesting title (notice, not phrase) that's me.
not a title i ascribe myself, one foisted on me.. jwd -yes.
jw memorial, why of course too.. valid posts on here....yes.
You just did to Outlaw what you came here to decry in others.
If you cant appreciate Outlaws humor, I cannot appreciate you.
Now there is you some balance!
inactive.......hmmm, what an interesting title (notice, not phrase) that's me.
not a title i ascribe myself, one foisted on me.. jwd -yes.
jw memorial, why of course too.. valid posts on here....yes.
oh Outlaw......your limited lines and clipped pics have been boring me for close on 10 years now.....save the for someone else.
Now whose being negative and "not " balanced?
(thank you though, you just told me ALL I need to know in order not to take this thread seriously)
inactive.......hmmm, what an interesting title (notice, not phrase) that's me.
not a title i ascribe myself, one foisted on me.. jwd -yes.
jw memorial, why of course too.. valid posts on here....yes.
Hi ScottyRex,
Of course there is some good in the JW religion.
There is almost always some good in everything.
To say something is all good or all bad is not usually accurate.
Some extreme examples?
Even Hitler did some good...remember the subdivisions full of homes? The improved highways? What about Kindergarten?
I had a JW elder neighbor who beat his kids after meetings for not commenting enough at the meeting.
But he was good to his dog. His dog rode with him in his truck and always seemed happy and unafraid.
This man also did a lot for people who couldnt work on their own homes (he was a carpenter) all bad? No.
How do his children feel?
They are grown now and still try to cope with those feelings brought on by their midweek after meeting beatings.
My point?
We have to respect where people are now based on their reality.
Many times, healing involves validating a person where they are at that moment.
Rarely does it involve demanding that they see the other side of things.
That is for later, after healing and only on the terms of the wronged person.
This website has never claimed to be here to promote a balanced view of the Org. It is here to help people.
And in that, it is the gold standard of websites.
“We do not see things as they are, we see them as we are.”- talmudic origins
which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.
everywhere you found telephone booths!
a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.
I am a tad younger but I remember a LOT of what you posted above Terry.
Am I a time machine in training?
Awesome post for the cusp of 2016/2017!
maybe this will become a new catch phrase describing the type of people that the governing body loves to have in their organization and that they create if they're born ins.. broke......dumb......& stupid.
let me explain:.
broke: the gb keeps their members in poverty by condemning higher education and demanding that all their time should be spent peddling the wt propaganda and going to all the meetings.
They even have a "term" for broke, dumb and stupid...
they call it "sheeplike".
Trying to make it sound spiritually desirable.
The fact that none of the their own Bible "heroes" (Moses ,David, Apostle Paul etc..) were docile or even poor, escapes their notice.
when i was a zealous publisher, once i took co for a return visit to learn how he handles difficult questions.
house holder brought the subject of joshua secretly sending two spies to spy out the city of jericho before its planned conquest, and asked: “wasn’t joshua acting in a human way here?
why would joshua need to send spies if he was the commander-in-chief appointed by god the almighty?”.
“Working with a religion is like working in the office world. If someone wants to be better, that one needs to take classes, certifications, read books, gather concepts, ideas to talk the talk. It is all about gathering information. That does not work in ‘spirituality.’ Spirituality is being in harmony with the nature, living Life with joy. Look at the particles—they are all dancing; and everything is made with particle, hence basis of everything is joy. Religion has no role to play other than making money.”
This is going to be my thought for the day annointed1.
Thank you for writing it down.
Please tell this former C.O. (if you are in contact with him)
that his words above have been more helpful to me than any other C.O. ever was.
