so 9 months before i started pioneering, i had a hot and heavy moment with this player witness who was just trying to string me along and talked to a lot of different girls.
we made out and he grabbed my goodies a few times you know the regular stuff all teens do at least once.
anyways i never saw him again because when i refused to send him nudes he dropped me.
Hi Addison,
As an older female talking to a younger one let me tell you that every feeling of outrage and indignity that you are feeling are 100% valid.
Do not let them tell you that just accepting their "discipline" is normal or tied to repentance. This is over control on their part. Your reaction to that is healthy.
Go read the Song of Solomon. Those two weren't married and I have always gotten a kick out of watching the puritan leadership of the Org dance around that book of the Bible!
so 9 months before i started pioneering, i had a hot and heavy moment with this player witness who was just trying to string me along and talked to a lot of different girls.
we made out and he grabbed my goodies a few times you know the regular stuff all teens do at least once.
anyways i never saw him again because when i refused to send him nudes he dropped me.
zophar
Interesting that the Elder's manual says that if it is discovered that an Elder or Ministerial Servant committed a gross wrong several years ago that they may be able to continue serving.
Shame that your nemesis didn't wait another year so you could plead several years ago! Not that it would matter, you are just a lowly female pioneer!
Yes it is the 3 year rule.
An elder guilty of sexual misconduct of over a couple years (a couple being 2) does not have to be removed if it is not well known.
His time serving during the three years is proof of Gods blessing.
So says the elders manual and it references an earlier Kingdom Ministry.
i would suppose that there are many at very sensitive operations at headquarters and around the world that are moles or double agents a 5th column if you will that are in but mentally out and full of hated for the governing body.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fifth_column.
a fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group from within, usually in favour of an enemy group or nation.
the activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine.
Many thoughts for you Committee C.
Please know that you are not alone. You have us and we care deeply about your well being.
i hate asking stupid or obvious questions, but i missed something somewhere along the line.
what is pimi and pomi?
did i even get the acronyms correct?
or,
POMI (physically out, mentally in)
one example would be a DFd person who thinks it is the "truth", wanting to get back in.
so here's the point regarding blood transfusions.
notice jesus asks the pharisees if it was lawful on the sabbath to save a life.
so, can you break god's law to save your life if it came to that?
Drearyweather?
Taking blood is not a direct disfellowshipping offense.
Following are the two policies:
1. If someone takes blood willingly and is not repentant, he is termed as disassociated.
2. If someone takes blood under extreme pressure, he is given counsel.
If anyone has the most recent elders manual, this is exactly how they play it now. Heavy emphasis "lovingly counsel and forgive" (their words not mine) those who did it under duress and weakness and are now SORRY (repentant).
They are in the process of backing away from their blood policy. They are not going to apologize or release new directives. Rather, they are just going to be very quiet and "forgive" people until the generation that knew it die off. It is being phased out and the children and grandchildren of the 30 something year old JWs will look at it as "the old ways', the same as older JWs now view organ transplants and vaccines.
hello everyone, i have an on and off again ex who is a jw.
each time her family gets involved and she's gone again.
i'm debating biting the bullet and doing the work to become baptized, so we can follow through with our engagement.
You sound like an easy going likeable guy.
I worry for you that the rules and regs once you are baptized would eat you alive.
I had one other thought. Your child you are raising with ex, give some thought to how this would impact her. She would have two extremely different lifestyles to have to move between.
hi - first some context - i have been pimo for about 20 years now and so have been to a lot of assemblies in that time.
last weekend i went to a circuit assembly and for the first time afterwards i was able to talk directly to someone who knows i'm out.
i realised then that although i didn't agree with any teachings (i sat picking holes in the arguements as usual) the experience of being there had affected me - the way of life started feeling normal as did the overall way of viewing the world.
I havent been to an assembly in 4 years but the last one I was at I did feel the wave of nostalgia sweep over me.
I though about it a lot after and came to the conclusion that it is very similar to the feeling I get if I hear "White Christmas" while at my local coffee shop in December. The frosty air, the enticing smells, all take me to a certain place in my brain.
Likewise, the standing at an assembly during a song, seeing everyone singing, thinking of how much history I share with them, all takes me to a long remembered place.
But!
Remember that illustration in (Live Forever book?) about the candy dropped in the gutter and how you wouldnt want to eat it?
That illustration applies 100% to the words and thoughts that come pouring out through that microphone at assemblies.
Then what comes to my mind is all the good people wrongly DFd by harsh elders applying their "opinions" willy nilly over others lives. I think about all the dead, who cannot sing anything, because they tried to adhere to the teachings on blood that are imposed on them.
Their teachings are from the gutter and the feelings and the music and the companionship are the brightly wrapped candy.
Thank you writing committee for that wonderful illustration!
so many of us have had (perhaps well-meaning) jws ask us questions about our inactivity, or lack of attendance at meetings.
they may pry about why..... how is this for a simple, yet straight to the point response?
to a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions.
I guess you begin with the end in mind.
It will NEVER matter what you say...reason and logic will not penetrate.
You see, they are on the side of the "Almighty" as defined for them by a religion. Implicitly built in to that is their "rightness".
So you just say what will make you feel the best going forward.
we hear a story regarding the life of thomas and emma.
she states that "when thomas and i first learnt that i was pregnant, we were both really shocked" she doesn't explain why they were both really shocked but it seems an odd reaction unless they were using the safest contraception invented or hadn't been told about the bird and the bees.two experiences that touched the heart of gb sanderson were as follows -.
in russia a jw was jailed for 6 months, the jailers did everything to try to undermine his faith, which included violence.
Arent/Werent some of the top brass at Coke JWs?
i'm having one of those days where i feel lonely and wish i had someone to just hang out with.
my husband got disfellowshipped 3 years ago and even though i didn't do anything wrong i was pushed away.
my so called "friends" decided to avoid me.
Hi Whynot,
You mentioned that your sons are autistic. I noticed recently that the local library is offering a story hour for children with sensory issues.
Weighted pillows and quilts and books for example. A slower quieter pace while reading etc.
You might want to check it out in your area. That can be another way to get out and meet people just through engaging in a group activity.
