Posts by millie210

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

millie210

DesirousOfChange8 hours agoso last January was the big meeting with elders. The letter about construction had to have been drafted before it was read, so the very latest it was being composed in late 2014 correct?
So what thing of magnitude would they have been unaware of? Its only been 3 financial quarters since then,
Remember who your source is for your reasoning. Its the WTS itself. Your reasoning is based on the assumption that everything said last January was truthful. It could be that they already knew the building plans were going to have to slow down (or stop), but they had to have a smokescreen to steal all the funds from every Congregation. Now that enough time has passed (in their opinion), or the financial situation has even worsened, the other shoe drops.
Theocratic warfare anyone?
Doc

Thanks Doc, I get your point and see how what you are saying works if they are doing this as part of a plan to bilk the flock.

I am working from a different theory I guess.

I think when they called the elders together and when they read that letter about the biggest building work the world has ever known, they meant it.

I think they thought it was coming to pass...C.O.s were all excitedly saying "wait till you see whats coming..." and then voila...the letter and the plans for construction on a ramped up level.

Of course, I have no insider info and could be completely wrong. Probably am in fact!

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

millie210

Well count me in the simplistic group!

Financial law is way over my head.

I was thinking more along the lines of watching in stunned disbelief as helicopters whirled over the Enron parking lot while stunned employees stumbled out of the building, cardboard boxes of their former offices in hand.

Someone had to tip off the helicopters to be there to film it, right?

But lets go with this statement:

steve2
, their own attorneys and accountants would be up with the play and provide clear warnings about the financial health of the organization

so last January was the big meeting with elders. The letter about construction had to have been drafted before it was read, so the very latest it was being composed in late 2014 correct?

So what thing of magnitude would they have been unaware of? Its only been 3 financial quarters since then,

Jan - March, Apr - June, July- Sept.

So what huge thing happened (in accounting terms) between January and now that accountants would have had no way to see coming?

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E-Mail, Just recived. About Bethell adjustments.

by DwainBowman in

i just read an email from a friend, and she shared some very interesting emails from her friends about information on changes now happening at the bethels around the world.

here is the email: .

---------------------------------thanks sally, jesus is directing the org and all decisions and instructions to us may not seem practical from now on, neither will we understand the reasonings behind many of the changes that the organization makes.

millie210

Would it be reasonable to think that whatever "it is", that "it" became an issue after the letter and subsequent meeting of all elders last January to inform them about "the greatest building work ever?

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My Opinions on whats going on in WT land - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i'd like to state that i currently have "privileges" in the congregation and volunteer at bethel on and off throughout the year.

that's as much information as i will currently give about myself.. starting off, i think something big is coming in the form of lawsuits and bad pr.

they seem to be batting down the hatches in preparation for something the last few years and even more so the last few months.

millie210

I like your approach very much thedepressedsoul.

You are being very smart - too bad the Org doesnt play their hand that way.

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How accurate is the Bible?

by WireRider in

how accurate is the bible?

the "compiled" version (council of nicaea) was not established for hundreds, or even thousands, of years after events happened.

stories were handed down generation to generation to generation before being written down.

millie210

Great point dothemath,

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Watchtower Society: something terribly going on - scenarios

by Gorbatchov in

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if an (aggressive) real estate fund is stopping it's operations directly,.

and if an publishing house is minimize the portfolio,.

and if a member of it's board of directors is telling the costs are higher then the profits,.

millie210

While all your options listed are possible I tend to think it is number 3.

I dont think they had no financial advice I think they listened to the wrong advice.

That would indicate a huge power struggle is going on high up and they listened to the wrong team.

OR they listened to the right team but something BIG has blown up (indicated by taking down the pictures of Warwick from their website) and they have to conserve funds.

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My Opinions on whats going on in WT land - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i'd like to state that i currently have "privileges" in the congregation and volunteer at bethel on and off throughout the year.

that's as much information as i will currently give about myself.. starting off, i think something big is coming in the form of lawsuits and bad pr.

they seem to be batting down the hatches in preparation for something the last few years and even more so the last few months.

millie210

The original post makes many good points but the one about them being legally understaffed really stuck out to me.

It made me remember that letter they sent out recently frantically asking about lawyers and paralegals in local halls.

If there is any connection between that letter and what the OP said, then they are not changing their M.O. - they are still scouring their own ranks thinking a way of pulling things out of the fire will "appear",

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

millie210

Well we can solve this easily...arent there court reporters constantly scouring the courthouse news?

This would be big news - as Morpheus said.

Any of our legal people know how long something can be kept under wraps before it is public record?

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My Mom Is Dying

by minimus in

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i just wanted to say that my dear 89 year old mom is terminally ill and will soon pass.

she is on morphine and hanging on.

she has been a devout witness for about 60 years and a wonderful mother.

millie210

Minimus, you are the little red dot who brings us so much joy...

I am so sorry to hear of this hard time for you and your dear mom.

That you consider her one of your best friends in life says volumes about her.

I know she sure raised a good man.

Much love coming your way and you will be in my thoughts today.

Milz

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How accurate is the Bible?

by WireRider in

how accurate is the bible?

the "compiled" version (council of nicaea) was not established for hundreds, or even thousands, of years after events happened.

stories were handed down generation to generation to generation before being written down.

millie210

Since I am moving rather slowly away from being a JW, my feelings about the Bible are in flux.

I am trying to go slowly because I dont want my thoughts about the Bible and everything else to be reactionary. I want them to be well researched and stand alone thoughts that are authentically mine and not part of my reeling away from "all things JW".

When I read the topic of this thread my first thought was the Bible is probably about as accurate as most of the worlds holy writings.

After reading the thoughts posted above, I would have to say my current thinking aligns mostly with what WireRider wrote.

I can think of Bible versus that have made me act better as I go through life. Two I have used at work a lot are

the stupid one is replying to a matter before he has heard it

and

in a multitude of counselers there is wisdom

To be very honest, there are also many quotes I use daily that are not from the Bible - just men who pierced one of lifes veils in a humorous or succinct way that I find a good reminder.

on not being overly impressed with people who claim to have money:

Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked. - Warren Buffett

on keeping grief in perspective:

Let not your grief be measured by his worth, because then your sorrow would have no end.

- Macbeth Act 5

On being too convinced my way is THE way:

We dont see things as they are - we see things as we are - Wayne Dyer

I cant honestly say any one quote is more profound than another - Bible or mans.