Posts by millie210

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Avoiding Service Tips?

by Kohanic in

back again!.

so as i'm still pimo and living under my parent's roof, how can i get out of service?

cause i really don't want to go and i feel dirty just knowing i could be influencing someone into this garbage..

millie210

cha ching I loved your post.

You just described my entire last year of pioneering!

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Avoiding Service Tips?

by Kohanic in

back again!.

so as i'm still pimo and living under my parent's roof, how can i get out of service?

cause i really don't want to go and i feel dirty just knowing i could be influencing someone into this garbage..

millie210

Find an older person who is a shut in. Go read to them and talk to them.

Dont use the literature, read what the older person likes or just visit with them.

Tell everyone that is your study and they are shy and dont want more than one person to come.

Turn in 2 hours, a Return Visit and a Bible study once a week from this one encounter and go ahead and enjoy the rest of your week!

Side benefit: You will probably make a great friend in this older person you show time and attention to.

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under roman rule, which covered a large part of the civilized world around the mediterranean, to be a trouble maker or a magician or an insurrectionist was a capital offence.. to live back then in a civilised society was a boon.

naturally for the sake of law and order certain compliances had to be met to as part of the social bargain to be a roman citizen.

among them were included the requirement to respect the “genius” or spirit of the emperor, not to be an atheist and to respect the roman gods.

millie210

This is a complex question.

Every one who has fought in a war (willingly that is) had a cause they were willing to die for.

Sometimes they didnt even know what was really going on between leaders at high levels, only what the propaganda was that reached the common man and still that was enough to form armies of people ready to die for the ideology of the moment.

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Don't you think that some people are just better off within the org?

by paradiseseeker in

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this is my first post, i will introduce myself later.

first of all, i must say that english is not my mother tongue (i'm spanish), so excuse me if i make any mistake.. do you think that some people simply can't cope with being outside the jws?

some of them are too worldlyphobic to be around non-jws, too dependent on a fixed set of rules in order to carry on with their lives, too dependent on the hope of paradise and resurrection, too unable to leave their personal comfort zone within the organization.

millie210

Welcome Paradiseseeker,

Nice to see some new (to me) posters writing on this thread.

Wayne Dyer says "We dont see the world as IT is - we see the world as WE are."

This saying helps me to understand activists and what they choose for a "cause". Some people are passionately saving whales, others trees, you get the idea - many causes, much sincere passion from the people who pick up the banner of their particular cause.

I am not an activist. I see the world as I am - just like everybody else and my view tells me to let people be where they are and be ready to support them if they grow in a different direction.

So yes, I think some people are better off in the Org. Especially what comes to mind is elderly people. Many are widowed and draw tremendous daily comfort from the idea of seeing loved ones again soon. They like the daily structure of meetings and field service and it gives them a social group. I see that as no different than an person of any other religion that has a lot wrong with it.

I guess it boils down to the age old argument of do you want to be "right" (or in this sense, correct about the JWs) or do you want to be happy?

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Wave your phone lights and dance at the Assemblies!

by days of future passed in

my sister sent me this youtube.

in it are witnesses waving their phone lights and dancing in the aisles.

sorry if this vid has been posted before.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k7iw-zisgw.

millie210

LOL at Flippers comment about the comparison to Moses coming down from the Mount. So true!

Funny how the leadership on the platform/stage dont seem to be participating or entirely comfortable with the dancing/waving.

Makes me wonder if this was a spontaneous audience directed action?

But upthread it was mentioned that some feel Bethelite guest speakers at events encouraged it. So who really knows?

Either way it speaks to the leadership losing control. A fragmenting is taking place. More emotion is being brought in to the mix to add to the total volume and help bulk up the content.

So the real question is why do they need to do this?

Whats internally wrong?

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St Petersburg Assembly Hall to be given to Russian scientists

by OrphanCrow in

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https://realty.newsru.com/article/26dec2017/iegov_med.

(the following article is translated using google translate).

the building selected in "jehovah's witnesses" in st. petersburg will be given to scientistsdecember 26, 2017 publication time: 09:42. in a building selected from a banned organization in russia, "jehovah's witnesses", will soon be able to read scientific lectures.

millie210

The building selected in "Jehovah's Witnesses" in St. Petersburg will be given to scientists
December 26, 2017 publication time: 09:42
In a building selected from a banned organization in Russia, "Jehovah's Witnesses", will soon be able to read scientific lectures. The city authorities will give the former site for worship to the medical research center

So does it appear that the Russian government is sensitive to the appearance of what they are doing by insuring the building will now be used in a manner most people would deem a "worthy" one?

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Hi, all...I'm a faithful JW who is sick of lies about us

by James Donalds in

i was baptized 30 years ago and have been in the faith for over 35 years.. our organization isn't perfect.

but i'm sick to death of seeing stereotypes about us.

we are not mindless automatons.

millie210

Bad news - this guys a troll...not great at it...not subtle enough.

Good news - He gave everyones "humor" muscles a good work out!

I find all the responses very encouraging in a wonderfully expressed way!

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One of the things I disliked about moving to a new congregation

by Jules Saturn in

i hope i’m not the only one who experienced this but i hated it when we moved to a new congregation and another family from the congregation we were in would move to the same congregation basically following us.

and it was annoying because i always felt like there was this competition over privileges and participation during the meetings with this particular family.

it was so annoying.

millie210

I have heard of family members moving when other family members did.

Havent heard of someone moving just to be where someone else moved but I can totally see how that would be over the top annoying!

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Christmas as a JW child

by Phoebe in

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i am sitting here, so utterly bored and waiting for this day to be over.

so i'm starting a new topic that probably has been done a thousand times but hey, i'm fairly new here.

humor me :).

millie210

Phoebe I recall so many things reading your words.

The going out in service and always feeling like we were intruding (plus we were cold- apparently our parents didnt waste a lot of money on niceties like gloves and mittens as well as "gifts on worldly holidays "). So the feeling of a cold winter morning and all the warm houses full of happy people and kids opening gifts and here we came interrupting with cheap paper magazines.

Once when I was around 8 or so I wrapped up old toys in paper and put them around the pedestal of a tall floor lamp in the living room. My parents were able to recognize the intention of a floor lamp with crudely wrapped old toys around its base as a mimic of a Christmas tree and demanded to know who did it.

Fortunately there were people coming over and in the bustle of things they forgot!

Today I am texting my worldly friends and family and DFd relatives and drinking egg nog by a nice fire. Life is good.

Your thread is cathartic and I love it.

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little acts of kindness.

by zeb in

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just had a coffee on way home when two young mums with babys in strollers came in with the usual bags and stuff for the little ones needs.

i recall our days of little ones and the times we rarely went out.. i bought a coffee voucher for each mum and gave them my best wishes.

i delight in doing random acts of kindness.. i wish everyone here as well a safe and happy christmas/ new year time.

millie210

zeb
Just had a coffee on way home when two young mums with babys in strollers came in with the usual bags and stuff for the little ones needs. I recall our days of little ones and the times we rarely went out.
I bought a coffee voucher for each mum and gave them my best wishes. I delight in doing random acts of kindness.
I wish everyone here as well a safe and happy Christmas/ new year time. Hugs!
Live long and prosper peace unto you all

Wonderful Zeb.

I have been rushing about all distracted lately...I will deliberately seek out a kind moment I can give to someone today - all thanks to you and your post.