Good work Pale!
You never were over reacting. You were reacting.
There will be many times in life you have to be your daughters advocate in one way or another. You have shown yourself more than equal to the task!
in case you're not aware of my last two threads:.
the situation that arose in that my mother has been having secret access to my daughter and refusing to tell me how she is: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5012900121935872/am-overreacting-here.
the build up to my solicitors visit: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6284953638666240/solicitors-appontment-tomorrow-advice-appreciated.
Good work Pale!
You never were over reacting. You were reacting.
There will be many times in life you have to be your daughters advocate in one way or another. You have shown yourself more than equal to the task!
i’m told that facebook has lost its luster.
twitter is pretty popular as well as snapchat and others.. which type is your favorite to use?.
Instagram!
hi friends one and all i just thought i would let you know it`s our 57th wedding anniversary today .
and we are setting off this morning for 3 nights in eden nsw i think it has more to offer than the one in genesis.. with a bit { or a lot } of luck we will make our fortune .
have a good day everybody.
Happy Anniversary to you both!
i used to pretty much believe anything they would report.
now, though, i find myself questioning “journalists “, with the realization that much of what is said may be inaccurate or slanted..
I had a friend that used to subscribe to several European newspapers and one from the Arab world.
The news about America was very different than what was being shown on our TVs and in our newspapers.
That was the first time it even occurred to me that news could be agenda or advertiser driven.
have you ever heard some brothers own ideas and opinions spouted from the platform?
perhaps off brand or crazy ones?
some that i've heard is:.
"True Christians should not wear jeans"
"If your jacket is wrinkled at the meeting, that is like bringing Jehovah your crippled animals for sacrifice."
"If a sisters skirt is short, she is inviting rapists or worse!"
This all from a short old elder with bug eyes and a comb over.
Hysterically funny now, looking back.
Im sure "Tight pants Tony" is his hero these days.
i've had an email from a sister who tells me that out in field service this morning a long standing route call has told them she won't be taking any more magazines and doesn't want them calling on her again because she has heard about the jws child abuse scandals and cover ups.
she was quite angry with them and said your elders say there is nothing wrong but there is and it will all come out.. this is the first time anyone i know of has been challenged on the doorstep and they were absolutely shocked and also angry.
angry that the organization is not preparing them for dealing with this and for not being honest with the brothers about what is going on ie: lawsuits etc.. just thought i'd share that with you..
Phoebe I think this is awesome!
I will be checking back on this thread to see what happens next!
please help me understand this.
over the years i have seen and have heard of many who have changed congregation due to the 'lack of love' shown in their own.
you then hear many condemning such ones as 'having a problem' and 'taking their problems with them'.
IMHO, you are not alone and you are picking up on a very real and unnatural climate in the Kingdom Hall.
You will never get a true reading on how much of what you sense is wrong with the folks in the Kingdom Hall is you and how much is them. The environment is just too forced and unnatural.
To me, the "love" is performance based.
The more you do (according to predetermined JW standards) the more deserving you are of "love" which is really not love but a conditioned approval response.
Its complicated isnt it? Thats what high control groups do...they legislate and re direct natural emotions and actions.
I wonder if you might like volunteering with a group that cares for animals? A shelter of some sort?
When I get too weary of people and their shenanigans, I find that animals refresh my soul. They have no agenda and need what we have to offer.
i couldn't bleedin' well resist it.
there were these 2 jobo blokes standing behind a jobot trolley.
jobo, 'what's that?'.
Note to self: Before the conversation gets rough, switch to cake!
Thank you punk, great job with those trolley handlers.
i`m sure you have all noticed the ever increasing number of newbies and lurkers who have visited this site over the past months and i am sure we could all collectively welcome them to this site and support them on learning the ttatt .
and helping them to navigate how they can look up older publications and quotes of the wtb&ts that they would rather remain hidden.. we all know jehovah`s witnesses /governing body never apologizes for mistakes they make they just don`t mention them anymore and explain it away as new light from god.. actually a big cop out.. welcome to all you who are new to this site .. every day their seems to be someone new posting which is great .. and if this is any indication of what is happening in all other ex jw sites the wtb&ts are in deep trouble .
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Welcome blisterfeet and boko!
When I first joined this site I felt like
a) what if I am betraying Jehovah by doing so?
b) what if a friend or elder finds out I am here?
c) what if the people here dont understand MY unique path that brought me here?
As you can see, I had a lot of angst.
What happened is no one looked for me and nothing bad happened whatsoever.
Instead, I got the love and support the Org promises but doesnt deliver. I found that we ALL have a unique story and that is in fact our commonality.
I found reasons to back up my suspicions that JWs are not a fact based religion. The depth of research and thought given here to such topics as scriptural inaccuracies, 1914, the blood issue, pedophilia within the Org, the mishandling of monies - and how they make money from such things as assemblies, relief work and the way kingdom halls are owned was all news to me, even as a lifelong JW.
The relief when I realized it is them that has the problem (not me) was profound.
I wish each and everyone of you here the same joy I have gotten from knowing the real truth about "the truth".
Welcome to this site!
jehovah himself gives the saying "the women telling the good news are a large army" psalms 68 : 11 coupled with the fact that a good portion of women partake of the emblems and wine at the annual memorial celebration.. identifying themselves as part of the 144000 that are taken from the earth to rule with christ jesus in the heavens.. isn`t it about time they were recognized for their contributions and given the fact that gods word the bible clearly states that 144,000 of anointed are to be taken from the earth which many women are a large part of.?.
revelation ch.14 :4 could be argued that they are not lesbians { "these are the ones who do not defile themselves with women ,in fact they are virgins, etc,etc.}.
i wonder just how many men who claim to be of the anointed have not defiled themselves with women and are virgins.?.
Paul said "I do not permit a woman to teach."
So never mind Miriam, Deborah, Jael, Phoebe etc...
when you scripture pluck, it allows you to go by what suits you at the moment.
JWs are a turn of the century white man American religion at their core.