Fair point by Bella..... mental illness are not infectious; except rare cases such as BSE, etc., of which you have to eat the infected, and that paragraph made no reference to cannibalism !!!!!!!!!!!
ekruks
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'Apostates' being labelled 'mentally diseased'. Is discrimination against mentally disabled people by using it as a 'hate crime' term?
by punkofnice insorry if i'm not expressing myself very well but i wasn't allowed an education due to wbt$ regulations.. what i'm trying to say is that the wbt$ using the term 'mentally diseased' as an insulting term against those fictitious 'apostates' they want everyone to 'hate', is surely very discriminatory against those that have a genuine mental illness.. it's like calling a white person that has caught a suntan the 'n' word isn't it?
offensive, inappropriate and utterly destructive.. in the uk the press can be pretty sensitive about such name calling that implies that mental disease is somehow to be used as a hate crime word.. is it worth writing to the press to complain about such discrimination?.
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'Apostates' being labelled 'mentally diseased'. Is discrimination against mentally disabled people by using it as a 'hate crime' term?
by punkofnice insorry if i'm not expressing myself very well but i wasn't allowed an education due to wbt$ regulations.. what i'm trying to say is that the wbt$ using the term 'mentally diseased' as an insulting term against those fictitious 'apostates' they want everyone to 'hate', is surely very discriminatory against those that have a genuine mental illness.. it's like calling a white person that has caught a suntan the 'n' word isn't it?
offensive, inappropriate and utterly destructive.. in the uk the press can be pretty sensitive about such name calling that implies that mental disease is somehow to be used as a hate crime word.. is it worth writing to the press to complain about such discrimination?.
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ekruks
I think the question should be, Who has the mental disease?
The bullying passive-aggressive organisation that has a socipathic attitude that results in stockholm syndrome and passive dissidence by it's members?If we are mentally-diseased, well that's only because of the abuse we suffered at their hands, and we left to escape such mental illness !!!!
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Poll: What do you believe now?
by Lunatic Faith ini have been noticing we ex-jw's are very different in our choices of beliefs once we leave the wts.
some choose christianity, others flee christianity.
some find they can't beieve in anything any more.
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ekruks
Agnostic
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Friends... life after JW
by ekruks inhave awakened to what fooo-king sh1t (sorry!
) i've been living in these last years.... well since i was born.... i am left if quite a weird state.
i have some weird friends.... jws.... i used to think they were normal.
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ekruks
Fair point Bella :) Had a nervous breakdown twice, though the second one was much worse, and has left me with some fatigue problem, for which I take high doses of Co-Q10 etc.. The stress had built up, and was doing my head in as far back as I can remember, even as a small kid, though I can't really compare that to a non-Witness kid life, as I didn't live twice :p But I did have lots of doubts and questions, and was disciplined very heavily for my rebellious spirit. I had so many lectures on humility; while the elders were the ones who were being full of themselves. I was constantly told to wait on Jehovah, to trust that the light gets brighter.... but it is so obvious that the holy spirit doesn't direct these men, even if a few are somewhat sincere though still bound by draconian laws. The Governing Body are like a monarchy, just like in Angels and Demons. What's with all this secrecy? We are submitting to people, and we don't even really know what they do or really who they are !?!
Sabastious, it has a grip; often my conscience pangs me about something, and I can't see a reason for it to; it's just the way I've been bought up. I agree with some things, like sure drugs are dangerous, but some of it I just can't see any point to.
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Friends... life after JW
by ekruks inhave awakened to what fooo-king sh1t (sorry!
) i've been living in these last years.... well since i was born.... i am left if quite a weird state.
i have some weird friends.... jws.... i used to think they were normal.
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ekruks
Thanks Bella for your encouragement
I don't deny God exists, but neither am I sure.... I'm agnostic. i.e. don't know. The lack of end of suffering puts me off the notion of God, but also makes me want him as a reason for morals.
One of the things that woke me up the most, was watching the film Anegls & Demons, starring Tom Hanks. Now, this film is taboo, but even though some characters are keen on evolution, not all are, so it's not necessarily anti-God, but rather anti-religion. Looking at the corruption of the religous leaders, it all seemed a bit close too home - reminded me too much of how when a servant, it politics I saw amongst elders, rather than holy spirit at work
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Launch of the newly revised AJWRB.ORG (Associated Jehovah's Witnesses For Blood)
by Dogpatch inafter three weeks of putting in long hours zen and i have put up a new look on the well-trafficked (#2 in pagerank for all ex-jw-type websites) site that doctors and medical students regularly go to for accurate information on the watchtower's current stance on transfusing blood components, etc.
fred rusk and gene smalley will love what is coming up.
but surprise!
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ekruks
Zen's story is very interesting !
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Launch of the newly revised AJWRB.ORG (Associated Jehovah's Witnesses For Blood)
by Dogpatch inafter three weeks of putting in long hours zen and i have put up a new look on the well-trafficked (#2 in pagerank for all ex-jw-type websites) site that doctors and medical students regularly go to for accurate information on the watchtower's current stance on transfusing blood components, etc.
fred rusk and gene smalley will love what is coming up.
but surprise!
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ekruks
Even as a kid bought up in the faith, I never bought the blood issue, but I guess I went along with it due to 'passive dissidence', i.e. I said to myself that blood was bad anyway because of AIDS. It never really rested well with me, but we were told not to question what we couldn't understand, but to wait on Jehovah. This means we are so brainwashed, that JWs die for what they probably don't even really agree with, so no wonder some 'sin' while on a hospital bed, nearing death, and later beg forgiveness. As a child, I was proud of the HLC, viewing them as heroes, thinking they were good because judges in civilised countries like the USA agreed with them, but now it see it as a very nasty state of affairs. I wouldn't complain if the courts overrode Jehovah's Witnesses on this matter, when no substitute could be provided.
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Australian branch co-ordinator sent to Poland. Victorian court case?
by yesidid inan australian friend "in high places" told me that their branch overseer or whatever he is called now,.
has been sent to poland.. because of the timing i just wondered if this is connected to the victorian court case.
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ekruks
Sounds like a possibility!
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Occult influence via TV/Movies/Music
by IMHO inhow much influence do you believe the demons can exert on people through such media?.
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ekruks
Not so sure they exist.... don't know.
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What can I do when I feel i can't keep going....
by Free!! ini have been having an awful week/month/year/life and i just feel like i can not move forward anymore... is like life is passing me by and i am just observing from the side lines.... i am so tired, i just want to sleep and never wake up..... has anyone felt like this?
i tried therapy (twice) an it did not work, i tried volunteering and surrounding myself with other people and things to do, and it works until i have to come home, then that feeling of emptiness returns.... .
i am so tired... i do not know what else to do.... .
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ekruks
I feel like this at the moment.... if it makes you better, I - a grown man - was crying on the sofa earlier. I just go and get busy with work, and try to improve my messy life, or just play music loud. Therapists were never helpful, because they don't know what we have been through, but I did find reading up on psychology, even on the web, to be helpful in understanding what is going on with my mind. It may be worth reading up on depression, passive dissidence, or Stockholm syndrome, and also to understand the weird bullies you met in the faith, read on how a troubled childhood (as many had growing up in the cult, while others had weird lives, drugs, sh1t, before they came into the cult) can cause passive-aggressive disorder, and sociopathy. Just look at it as small steps, day by day, improving things - it gets better.