Posts by MoeJoJoJo

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WATCHTOWER QUOTE RE UN NGOs NAILS THEIR OWN ASSES!

by MadApostate in

i'm pulling this out of the original thread since people are blowing by this as if it were nothing.. the blue portion appears on page 17 of the june 1, 1991 watchtower, in the article titled their refuge--a lie!, which criticizes "christendom" for seeking help from the united nations rather than jah.. .

"prayer and meditation at the united nations"-- robert muller .

"prayer, meditation and spirituality at the un are fascinating subjects.

MoeJoJoJo

MA,
I typed in 'UN' in the search field (WT cd) and started with the older articles first. So it didn't take too long to come across that article. I love this UN scandal stuff. It's so interesting. Thank you for bringing out this info. and thanks to hawk for all of your work.

I'm searching for more articles related to what you're looking for, haven't found any others yet.
However,I found this article interesting:
Here's a quote
*** Awake 1985 10/22 pg.6 The UN-Has It United the Nations? ***

"However, if nations do bring their problems to the UN, it is often to accuse and counteraccuse. The UN becomes a forum for political propaganda. That being so, you might ask, ‘How can the UN use its influence for peace?’
The answer given by UN officials is that the UN publicizes issues and tries to sway world opinion so that governments will respond. But in itself, it cannot take any armed action to prevent or impede a war."

Who helped to publicize UN issues? We did!!! (At least those of us who were publishers from 1991-Oct 2001)

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WATCHTOWER QUOTE RE UN NGOs NAILS THEIR OWN ASSES!

by MadApostate in

i'm pulling this out of the original thread since people are blowing by this as if it were nothing.. the blue portion appears on page 17 of the june 1, 1991 watchtower, in the article titled their refuge--a lie!, which criticizes "christendom" for seeking help from the united nations rather than jah.. .

"prayer and meditation at the united nations"-- robert muller .

"prayer, meditation and spirituality at the un are fascinating subjects.

MoeJoJoJo

MA, I don’t know if this is something you’re looking for; this article is a prime example of hypocrisy on the part of the Society

*** w76 12/1 711 Can an Image Bring Peace and Security? ***
”The Roman Catholic Church and the World Council of Churches, with a membership of over 250 churches, have repeatedly declared the United Nations to be “the chief temporal hope for world peace.” The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “Recent pontiffs have stressed the necessity of international organization and the principles that should guide it, and have praised the UN for its purposes and various programs and accomplishments. The Holy See maintains a permanent observer at the UN and contributes financial as well as moral support to many of its economic, social, scientific, cultural, and humanitarian programs. It participates as a full member or observer in a number of Specialized Agencies and participates in diplomatic and other conferences called by the UN. Sixteen Catholic international organizations contribute formally to the work of ECOSOC and various Specialized Agencies through the medium of consultative status with these bodies, and Catholic groups and individuals in various countries contribute to the formation of national policy and action with regard to the UN.”—Vol. 14, p. 423.
Will all such friendliness with the world be of real benefit to any religious system? No, the Bible declares that “Babylon the Great,” the harlotrous religious empire, will experience a great shock. Revelation 17:16 says: “The ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire.”
So there is real danger in becoming involved with the “scarlet-colored wild beast.” Never will it bring real peace and security. But it will unleash destructive fury against the religious systems who have looked to it as man’s “chief temporal hope for world peace.” This should not come as a surprise. Even now many members of the United Nations openly state that they are anti-God. In turning against religion, the “scarlet-colored wild beast” and its “ten horns” will, therefore, not be acting out of any love for the Most High. Its going against religion will be an expression of an anti-God attitude. So even if it does bring about a semblance of peace and security, it will merit destruction for setting itself up in total opposition to Jehovah God. For that reason those who join in any U.N. cry of “Peace and security!” face disaster, even if they are not in sympathy with “Babylon the Great.”
Are you acting in harmony with this advance knowledge? Have you separated yourself from the world’s ways, attitudes and actions? Are you proving that you look to God’s kingdom by Christ as the only means for bringing about lasting peace and security? Only by continuing to do these things can you hope to escape entanglements that could mean your losing God’s approval and life itself.”

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Wanted: A few good men

by butalbee in

where do you go to meet a good man?

don't want to go to a bar, where all the men are drunks.

don't want to date anyone i work with anymore, it's too awkward.

MoeJoJoJo

Why not a book store/coffee shop like Barnes & Noble. Most likely the guys who hang out there are the intellectual type.

I met my husband at a circuit assembly. You could try that.
(Of course, I'm just kidding)

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Avoiding JWs

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

i am so sick of being bothered by jws(we are inactive);every weekend we can count on someone from the hall stopping by either saturday or sunday.

it makes me mad because i know they are counting time with me.

a sister from the hall just called to see what is wrong, why we haven't been to meetings.

MoeJoJoJo

Thanks for the replies and suggestions!
Namewithheld I loved this one:

Or look wildly over their sholders and scream "Back you evil demon smurf!!!!!!" then lean in and wisper "Be quiet the smurfs can hear you...."

I had a mental image of myself saying that and the look on sister elderly pioneer's face. LOL

Patio, don't feel bad its not that we were all that popular, we live right on Main St. in a town where alot of the congregation does their banking and goes to the local post office, not to mention many go by our home on their way home from meetings.

I'll have to try the old HBH routine(you know-- home but hiding)
like puffs suggested.

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Avoiding JWs

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

i am so sick of being bothered by jws(we are inactive);every weekend we can count on someone from the hall stopping by either saturday or sunday.

it makes me mad because i know they are counting time with me.

a sister from the hall just called to see what is wrong, why we haven't been to meetings.

MoeJoJoJo

Thanks Celia
I like that we'll have to try it.
Its funny because rarely did we ever have anyone from the hall just stop by or call until we both became inactive and stopped attending. Now we are being bombarded.

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Avoiding JWs

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

i am so sick of being bothered by jws(we are inactive);every weekend we can count on someone from the hall stopping by either saturday or sunday.

it makes me mad because i know they are counting time with me.

a sister from the hall just called to see what is wrong, why we haven't been to meetings.

MoeJoJoJo

I am not exaggerating!

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Avoiding JWs

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

i am so sick of being bothered by jws(we are inactive);every weekend we can count on someone from the hall stopping by either saturday or sunday.

it makes me mad because i know they are counting time with me.

a sister from the hall just called to see what is wrong, why we haven't been to meetings.

MoeJoJoJo

I am so sick of being bothered by JWs(we are inactive);every weekend we can count on someone from the hall stopping by either Saturday or Sunday. It makes me mad because I know they are counting time with me. I just know it.
A sister from the hall just called to see what is wrong, why we haven't been to meetings. There were two elders on our doorstep last Saturday at 1:30 in the afternoon-I had made sure the kids and I were gone all morning and thought it safe to be back at 1:00 (my husband was working all day)
The weekend before both Saturday and Sunday someone stopped by. The weekend before that two other elders stopped by-we discussed some of the things that were bothering us. Get this: they left a couple of sisters in the car for three hours, we didn't know they were waiting in the car until the elders were leaving-how inconsiderate.

I know they are all worried and concerned but I am beginning to feel harassed. We are not ready to be DF'd or DA'd, not yet. So when people stop by, non-elders, we try to give some lame excuse about working alot.
I feel like telling them to go away, but its not in my nature to be rude nor my husband's.

Probably what we have told the elders so far has set us on our way to being DF'd. That is probably why the second set of elders came by to try to 'readjust' our thinking. How many elders' visits do they normally make on you before you get the boot?

We are really starting to enjoy life and they are ruining it. Every knock on the door I think its another JW. I need caller ID!!! I just want peace.

I had to vent a little. Thanks

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The mormons vs the jw?

by Nicolas in

jw
friends

i saw a report on tv about the church of jesus chrisht of latter day saint and they have a lot in common with the jw.

they go from door to door and as the jw, they believe that they are here to save the world.

do you think that this church will become more popular while the watchtower is losing his popularity?

MoeJoJoJo

Our neighbors are Mormons, and a couple of weeks ago they invited us over to watch a video about how the religion got its start, I believe the video was called “Legacy”. We are not interested in being converted into another religion but decided to go because we wanted to know more about what their religion teaches, just for education value. And they are very nice people.
When they invited us they said that they were also inviting others from the community (no one else ended up showing up though). We were greeted at their door not only by the husband but also by four of their elders who were all dressed in suits with little name tags, they all introduced themselves as elder “so-and-so”. It made me a little nervous at first. The elders were all very polite and around the age of 19. So we made a little small talk and then watched the video.
We talked a long time about religion after the video. We wanted to know how their religion compared with the JW religion. We asked about their preaching work ,the elders said that they get up at 6:30 a.m. and read from the book of Mormon then they preach from 9:30 am to 9:00 pm. They preach like that for two years, our neighbor says that the preaching doesn’t stop at that though. He said that they regularly visit with people mostly with those who are Mormon but not attending church regularly- I guess those ones would be what the JWs call inactive.
It is true that they don’t drink any strong beverages. They served Kool Aid .
They also believe that there is one true religion. I couldn’t help but ask that question.
Joseph Smith was 14 years old when he had his first vision – I thought that was interesting.
They didn’t talk much about the Bible, only the Book of Mormon.
I think they really wanted to try and convert us, they probably thought, “they would make such a nice Mormon family”. I respect their religious beliefs but I am through with religion personally. Not God and Jesus - just religion.
I believe that the visit was not only enlightening for us but also maybe for them.

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Proxy for the Annual Meeting

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

i remembered there was some discussion several months ago concerning the annual meeting when i came across this form attached in an old watchtower, dated september 1, 1935. i thought it might be of some interest to some here.

notice in the instructions that "each person or company that has contributed $10.00 or more at one time to the work of the society is entitled to one vote for each $10.00 so contributed".. personally i thought it was interesting.

thanks bitter mango for your help.. .

MoeJoJoJo

OK what did I do wrong?
Oh well forget it.

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Proxy for the Annual Meeting

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

i remembered there was some discussion several months ago concerning the annual meeting when i came across this form attached in an old watchtower, dated september 1, 1935. i thought it might be of some interest to some here.

notice in the instructions that "each person or company that has contributed $10.00 or more at one time to the work of the society is entitled to one vote for each $10.00 so contributed".. personally i thought it was interesting.

thanks bitter mango for your help.. .

MoeJoJoJo

I remembered there was some discussion several months ago concerning the annual meeting when I came across this form attached in an old Watchtower, dated September 1, 1935. I thought it might be of some interest to some here. Notice in the instructions that "each person or company that has contributed $10.00 or more at one time to the work of the Society is entitled to one vote for each $10.00 so contributed".
Personally I thought it was interesting.
Thanks BITTER MANGO for your help.