I'm completely confused, you say Bill said this, then you quote AlanF? Who said it AlanF or Bill? And where did Bill say these things?
Trauma_Hound
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Best wishes to all...
by kelsey007 inclearly there is a lot of hate still lingering among many exjw's.
my coming to these boards about a year ago was an intersting and a growing experience.
i have learned a lot and it has helped me to feel even better about my decision to leave the wt.
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Sweet Potato & Pear Soup.... Is Not Yukky
by Robdar in1 tbs of butter .
2 tsp lime juice--or to taste .
5. return to pot, add cream, maple syrup and lime juice.
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Best wishes to all...
by kelsey007 inclearly there is a lot of hate still lingering among many exjw's.
my coming to these boards about a year ago was an intersting and a growing experience.
i have learned a lot and it has helped me to feel even better about my decision to leave the wt.
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Trauma_Hound
I'm completely confused, you say Bill said this, then you quote AlanF? Who said it AlanF or Bill? And where did Bill say these things?
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Give Bill a deserved break!
by Derrick inislandwoman, i hope you don't take this topic as a personal attack because none such was intended.
in the topic why is bill bowen attacking us?
the topic's author asks about bill bowen, "why is he attacking ray franz, hillary_step and from what i've heard on this board also reinhard lengtat?".
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Trauma_Hound
Your extremist analogies and flawed logical leaps do not prove your point. (I try to reason with you on Ray Franz's early writings, therefore I support child rape.)
I didn't say you supported rape, or are you to stupid to read what I said? Let me quote myself. "but your no better than a person that watches someone get raped and does nothing about it." Where in there did I say you supported rape? I didn't.
Edited by - Trauma_Hound on 13 October 2002 4:18:36
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Give Bill a deserved break!
by Derrick inislandwoman, i hope you don't take this topic as a personal attack because none such was intended.
in the topic why is bill bowen attacking us?
the topic's author asks about bill bowen, "why is he attacking ray franz, hillary_step and from what i've heard on this board also reinhard lengtat?".
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Trauma_Hound
So, let me get this straight:
If you don't support victims of child abuse in the manner defined by you "your (sic) a scumbag"?
I believe it is you who are missing the point, TH. The so-called "policy" penned by Ray Franz was never intended to be used in the way it has been used by the WTS. How can you or anyone else hold him responsible for how it has been corrupted?
It like me taking your words above completely out of context and making them sound like something you did not intend. Who is responsible for that? Me or you?
If you wrote it, and it's being used to cover up child rape, then you have a responsibility to come out against it. YOU WILL NEVER convince me otherwise. If you want to defend someone that wrote this despicable policy, then go right ahead, but your no better than a person that watches someone get raped and does nothing about it.
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Give Bill a deserved break!
by Derrick inislandwoman, i hope you don't take this topic as a personal attack because none such was intended.
in the topic why is bill bowen attacking us?
the topic's author asks about bill bowen, "why is he attacking ray franz, hillary_step and from what i've heard on this board also reinhard lengtat?".
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Trauma_Hound
So, let me get this straight:
If you don't support victims of child abuse in the manner defined by you "your (sic) a scumbag"?
I believe it is you who are missing the point, TH. The so-called "policy" penned by Ray Franz was never intended to be used in the way it has been used by the WTS. How can you or anyone else hold him responsible for how it has been corrupted?
It like me taking your words above completely out of context and making them sound like something you did not intend. Who is responsible for that? Me or you?
Well if you penned it, and it was corrupted, don't you think you have a responsibility to come out against it, since it's being used by the society to coverup child rape. Unless you really don't care about kids getting raped, and nothing being done about it.
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Give Bill a deserved break!
by Derrick inislandwoman, i hope you don't take this topic as a personal attack because none such was intended.
in the topic why is bill bowen attacking us?
the topic's author asks about bill bowen, "why is he attacking ray franz, hillary_step and from what i've heard on this board also reinhard lengtat?".
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Trauma_Hound
So, let me get this straight:
If you don't support victims of child abuse in the manner defined by you "your (sic) a scumbag"?
I believe it is you who are missing the point, TH. The so-called "policy" penned by Ray Franz was never intended to be used in the way it has been used by the WTS. How can you or anyone else hold him responsible for how it has been corrupted?
It like me taking your words above completely out of context and making them sound like something you did not intend. Who is responsible for that? Me or you?
Well if you penned it, and it was corrupted, don't you think you have a responsibility to come out against it, since it's being used by the society to coverup child rape. Unless you really don't care about kids getting raped, and nothing being done about it.
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Give Bill a deserved break!
by Derrick inislandwoman, i hope you don't take this topic as a personal attack because none such was intended.
in the topic why is bill bowen attacking us?
the topic's author asks about bill bowen, "why is he attacking ray franz, hillary_step and from what i've heard on this board also reinhard lengtat?".
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Trauma_Hound
Trauma: did you read the quotes by Amazing concerning Ray Franz's participation in the "two witness rule" and how he feels it should apply today? -- wasasister
Trauma?Yes I did, where is that in print? Oh ya it's not! However my point was really this, there is plenty of room for mis-understandings, and I think Bill and Him cared for it themselves, however being that Ray DID write it, and you seem to fail realize that, hello? What makes you think that posibly Bill misunderstood, took it wrong? I guess he's not human eh? Unfortunatly you all miss the points entirely, I'm not here to support Bill, I'm here to support the victims of child molesters. This is all FLUFF, it's IDIOTIC, and it's STUPID. Your playing right into the WTBS, by not having a united front. And it comes down to supporting the victims, and if you don't then your a scumbag in my book, especially when you originally wrote the policy. Support can be as little as just making a statement against it.
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Give Bill a deserved break!
by Derrick inislandwoman, i hope you don't take this topic as a personal attack because none such was intended.
in the topic why is bill bowen attacking us?
the topic's author asks about bill bowen, "why is he attacking ray franz, hillary_step and from what i've heard on this board also reinhard lengtat?".
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Trauma_Hound
Let me make this clear, MR. FRANZ DID Write the two witness rule policy, so why the f*%T& can't you see there is alot of room for misunderstanding? Why hasn't he come out against it? So the people that support Franz do you think the rule is good in the case of child molestation? If not, then why wouldn't you make a statement against it? Simple one line statement? If you wrote the policy, and now are against it, why wouldn't you just simply state that? Unless, you think the policy is ok, if you think the policy is ok, then your a sick f^ck!
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**silentlambs WB11 News Video now online!**
by Trauma_Hound inthe new york wb11 news video is now online!
in new york for sending me the video.. .
http://www.seattle-chat.com/video/.
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