this is a difficult thing, abuse.
its takes years for abuse victums to come to terms with the abuse.
what i don't understand is how family members can treat you as if you were the abuser.
Thanks mouthy.
Iam not offended at all. I just don't know what I believe anymore. The witnesses put such a bad taste in my mouth for god that I just do't know.
Thanks for the hugs.
By the way, the judge called my lawyer today and asked for an extension until May 31. So we still won't know anything until then. UGH! 2 months more seems like so long.
vic
i haven't been reading the threads lately.
so what's new on the child abuse cases?
any update on vicki's case?
I will keep you all informed!
vic
this is a difficult thing, abuse.
its takes years for abuse victums to come to terms with the abuse.
what i don't understand is how family members can treat you as if you were the abuser.
As I sit here and cry, reading all the love I get from you guys, I know deep down that you are right. I know it will be over soon. I hope. Thanks
this is a difficult thing, abuse.
its takes years for abuse victums to come to terms with the abuse.
what i don't understand is how family members can treat you as if you were the abuser.
This is a difficult thing, abuse. Its takes years for abuse victums to come to terms with the abuse. What I don't understand is how family members can treat you as if you were the abuser. I have family members who won't talk to me, and I have never done anything to them. I just don't understand. Yet my father gets sympathy from them. "poor dad, he is so scared that his new girlfriend will find out about the abuse, this trial has marked him forever, do you see what you have done, its hard for us as your brothers and sisters to listen to you about the trial and your pain." All things I hear all the time. No matter how much I try, Iam always the bad one. So I try and keep my pain to myself. But it hurts, and they don't seem to understand that. Its like they are saying" we don't care how you feel, its your problem not mine" Why does it have to be this way. I don't call them everyday or even every month and tell them about the trial. I only talk about it when something new has happened. They are not even jw's anymore either. But then maybe its me. Maybe I have become someone that I don't see. Are they seeing someone they don't know anymore. Am I really a person who has so much anger, that even I don't see it.
Time feels like its taking its toll. SOmetimes I feel like I could just leave all this behind. Run away, and start again. No abuse, no pain, a fresh start. I feel like the barrer of the ring. Like frodo. I don't know how much longer I can bear this burden. I just wish someone else could do it for a while, so I can breath again, and love again, and feel happy when I wake up in the morning, and when I go to sleep at night.
Is this what I was put on this earth to do. How long must a person carry these things.
vic
vic
judge: sisters may pursue church case
the telegraph, feb. 26, 2003. http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/.
by andrew wolfe, telegraph staff.
Wow,
Very interesting to hear people talking about me and my case.
Jonab, you seem to know alot. I I thought Howe's name did end in "e". You must know him personally. Very interesting. Did you make it to any days of my trial.? I must know you. You know Frank M, and I know most people he knows. Perhaps you are a relative of the elders, or even a relative of mine. None of them talk to me. They all sat at the trial on the elders side. Even after they heard the truth , and that my father did abuse me. Not one person said they were sorry for not believing me. Not even my grandmother. Shows how sick they all are.
The point I want to make clear is this. As a jw, you are told that you do not go outside the church for anything. So therefore the elders are the only place to go. If they want you to go to them with your problems, then they must be prepared to deal with them. They should be a safe place to go, as I said on the 5th estate, not a place to tear you apart. I begged not to confront my father!!!! I told the elders i was scared, and that I could not talk about the details of the abuse in front of him as they have told me I had to do. But they called bethel, and guess what, bethel said I had no choice. I had to confront my father or else! Then they blamed me for wearing pj's around the house, and even blamed my mother, saying perhaps she wasn't giving my father his "due"(sex). The judge liked that one!.
So, If you say that you are part of a loving organization, that loves their children, you are wrong! In my case they had no excuse. The elders had 5 other elders telling them it was wrong, but they went behind their back and did it anyway as was directed by bethel. Special instructions. Nice. All of this came out at trial. Even Mr.Brown admitted that i was told to forgive my father, and show signs of forgiveness. So even though it made me sick, i put my arm around my dad at the hall. I was scared that if I didn't I would be d'fd. He was not publically reproved. Only the elders knew of his crimes. THE congregation did not know. The would not have even known that his priviledges were taken. Sorry my spelling is bad. Lack of a good education. But I have a good heart.
It is a difficult time for me. It is taking a long time for the judge to make a decision. I want to close that part of my life. Thanks sf for clarifying. Hugs to you too. I needs lots of them. (hence my name) I know its slang.
I will keep everyone informed if a decision is made.
vic
i haven't been reading the threads lately.
so what's new on the child abuse cases?
any update on vicki's case?
Hello sunshine,
This is Vicki. There has been nothing new with the case. We still have not heard the verdict from the judge. We hope it is soon.
take care
judge: sisters may pursue church case
the telegraph, feb. 26, 2003. http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/.
by andrew wolfe, telegraph staff.
sf,
I read quickly over your comments to hawk. Yes it is true that more could be done to let the world know of the horrible things going on inside the wt. But I want to say one thing, Hawk has been the one to do that. He has kept the press informed and updated every step of the way in "everyones" battles.
If it wasnt for Hawk, I would not have had the press at my trial last sept. He was amazing, and continues to be amazing. Here is a person that was never a jw, fighting against the wt. WOW.
THANK YOU HAWK
Perhaps you need to get involved too, or perhaps we all could do a little more. I spent 2 weeks in trial against the wt, and feel I still have't done enough.
THe judge has yet to make her ruling.
I will keep you all informed.
Some very important points are being made on this tread.
vic
did anyone watch w5 last night on cbc at 9 pm?(canada).
it was another hour long program of child abuse vicitms and the watchtower society.. it looked very very bad .
bill bowen was on.. it was a very powerful program.. .
Thanks all!
You are right! They did hours of interviews with the intent of running mostly my story. But because of the lawsuit being unfinished, they had to edit. Oh well, I think the story turned out well. Iam a mother of 3 little girls, and I am finally getting my life together now after 10 years of pain. I can really feel for mike moss. He is in a bad place now. I will try to call him tonight, and get him to post here for support.
Hey Hawk! You have been such a great support to me and my husband. We can't thank you enough. I think even some jw's are getting the picture. They don't seem to be as negative as before when they thought the governing body was perfect. Big surprise.
Love to all! I will to try and check posts more often. The trial has taken a big chunk out of our exspense budget, so we have had to cut out our internet hours.
Keep up the great support you all provide, and kisses to all who came to my trial.
vicki
did anyone watch w5 last night on cbc at 9 pm?(canada).
it was another hour long program of child abuse vicitms and the watchtower society.. it looked very very bad .
bill bowen was on.. it was a very powerful program.. .
sorry I didn't finsh the last post!
We still have not heard a word from the judge. Every day gets more and more difficult. I was glad that the story on the 5th estate went so well. I hope that other jws out there get to see what the organization is all about.
Don't you feel so bad for Mike Moss! He is at a place right now that I was at 4 years ago. He needs lots of love. I met him at the trial , and he really is a nice guy.
I will keep you all updated about my trial verdict. I hope the judge realizes the damage the society is doing by keep these things quiet.
victoria
did anyone watch w5 last night on cbc at 9 pm?(canada).
it was another hour long program of child abuse vicitms and the watchtower society.. it looked very very bad .
bill bowen was on.. it was a very powerful program.. .
Hello everyone,
I was the third person on the 5th estate show, vicki from Fredericton. I know that I have not posted much since my trial in sept.
