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  LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

  by QUANTUM in

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  please refer to the following.

  http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

  begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

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  farkle.....your questions require to much of my time in writing...I don't have the inclination to write a tome because they really never get read ...they put people in ga ga land.

  I am not afraid of your questions but if your willing to listen to my answer by way of real scholarship then you need to go to the f.r.a.m.s. web site below........Is it fair to do it this way...I say yes because the kind of evidence they give is foot noted and backed up by more than this heresay........you don't accept their scolarship? well if not theirs why mine? they are accepted by many other non mormon scholars... you're not going to because you want to find fault with me ...on this board.......but I can tell you this that the comments you have made are completely erroneous about the BOOK of ABRAHAM and you can find out why at FARMS (see below)

  none of you are looking for a truth but someone elses lies.....the people your getting this anti mormon stuff from, if you read it with an open mind instead of an open mouth........is they only make statements against...they never give any information which backs up their charges...doesn't that seem odd to any of you. http://farms.byu.edu/free/index.html

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  Edited by - QUANTUM on 13 July 2002 1:43:0

  Edited by - QUANTUM on 13 July 2002 1:44:54
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  Quantum Reactions

  by Amazing in

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  dear quantum:.

  first, your effort to draw a distinction between "proof" and "evidence" is a distinction without a difference.

  you never offered "evidence" ... but rather you made assertions.

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  larc..........

  give it up......your still ranting on about yesterdays news........

  I may have a certain way with words which some of you are mystified by, but looking into many of these posts I haven't seen a whole lot of depth either.......this board didn't really wake up until I made my entrance....a little spice in your otherwise trivial and boring lives.

  Quantum is magical
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  Quantum Reactions

  by Amazing in

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  dear quantum:.

  first, your effort to draw a distinction between "proof" and "evidence" is a distinction without a difference.

  you never offered "evidence" ... but rather you made assertions.

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  insidentely, to refer to yourselves as sheep or lambs would be considered by the truely humble an act of theft.
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  QUANTUM SPEAKS

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  dear ex jw's:.

  if some of you remember my initial entrance to these boards was commenting on the child abuse situation.

  i stayed to long... i was feeling the tension of several discussions with some of the people i work with who are active jw's.

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  I think you mean PLATELETS.....go drinks some blood now that your free to do so.
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  by Amazing in

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  dear quantum:.

  first, your effort to draw a distinction between "proof" and "evidence" is a distinction without a difference.

  you never offered "evidence" ... but rather you made assertions.

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  AMAZING........................

  WHO ARE YOU..........................

  I was requested by some professional deceivers to give some evidences.........some sort of a foundation had to be laid so a legitamate and mutually respectful discussion. could take place. It is not a surprise to me that there are some who will do there best to sabatage such an effort but I was more than little suprised that the entire lot of you are completely disingenuous.

  I only began with my discussions earlier when so many of you wanted to explain the finer points of evolution and the falacious points of atheism, It was declared that no one could defend the contrived affirmation that creationism has always lost to evolutionism.......

  The Hypocrasy of some of you is matched only by your noxious behavior.

  Edited by - QUANTUM on 13 July 2002 0:36:25
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  QUANTUM SPEAKS

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  dear ex jw's:.

  if some of you remember my initial entrance to these boards was commenting on the child abuse situation.

  i stayed to long... i was feeling the tension of several discussions with some of the people i work with who are active jw's.

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  the plates........where are they?

  where are the tablets with the ten commandments........where are the original writings of the scores of prophets talked about in the Bible where is your grade school deploma......or you kindergarten one for that matter........all of you may think you sound clever but it sounds like a group meeting in a state run rubber room for the hopelessly and mentally dislodged.

  QUANTUM IS INCOMPARABLE
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  Challenge to the Asshole formerly known as Quantum

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  quantum,.

  let's agree to destruct the mormom religion in 10 minutes.

  then we'll do the dubs in 5.. .

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  gedanken.........

  YOU ARE SO SMALL!!!!!
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  QUANTUM SPEAKS

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  dear ex jw's:.

  if some of you remember my initial entrance to these boards was commenting on the child abuse situation.

  i stayed to long... i was feeling the tension of several discussions with some of the people i work with who are active jw's.

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  gedanken, expatbrit,mary, kenneson,austrailia, refiners fire,plmkrzy

  I quantum declare you people insignificant!
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  QUANTUM SPEAKS

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  dear ex jw's:.

  if some of you remember my initial entrance to these boards was commenting on the child abuse situation.

  i stayed to long... i was feeling the tension of several discussions with some of the people i work with who are active jw's.

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  I just want to express my appreciation for the wonderful response so far....

  I hate to dismantle your vitriolic platitudes, but the lack of real knowldege in this subject by everyone of you so far makes me wonder how you people make it through life. With this kind of narrowmindedness and hatred........ oh yes I said hatred......you must be a real joy to be around.

  The mocking list which has been provided by one of your psuedo apologists is very funny.....by answering each one in a derogatory way it is trying to fake scholarship.

  I'll try and make this simple......the idea of the list is to demonstrate that a young uneducated man produced a work which was remarkable....have others done so...YES but there is where the comparison stops...I'm only going to offer a few things to show the deception here....The Lord of the Rinds was a mans life ntime work it was written over a 30 year period...the man had a PHD.....Smith had no education and produced this major work in 80 days........The koran was dictated over a 20 year period and was a commentary about how to live and act....there is no story involved which talks of a culture which no one knew about at the time of Smith...only later...after everyone in his day said things like...who ever heard of ancient peoples writting on gold plates.....Who is Lehi there has never been a name like that from where he was supposed to come from....and countless others which can and will be named as time goes on...but alas....if your neighbor lifted your house off its foundation would you say he had super human powers.

  the claim that Smith was able to put in his narrative figures of speech and metaphors ect. ..another point was missed by light years...it's not the figures of speech and metaphors of Smiths Day but of Lehi's day 600 bce.........which have proven to be completely accurate. thanks to modern archaeology...How did Smith Know the culture and mannerisms of those people....the whole idea of the question.....go write a book which deals with an ancient people no one Knows anything about but will be dicovered at some later time..then we will see if you were correct in your statements about them........that is exactly what Smith was able to do.....

  I think the spurious smoke screens are put up by very brain washed people........when I invetigate something I first go to the source then to the critics...DISHONEST PEOPLE USE THE OPPOSITE WAY!

  QUANTUM IS STILL THE GREATEST
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  dear ex jw's:.

  if some of you remember my initial entrance to these boards was commenting on the child abuse situation.

  i stayed to long... i was feeling the tension of several discussions with some of the people i work with who are active jw's.

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  REFINERS FIRE:

  I am going to comment.....I want to comment....I feel the fire to comment.

  But here is the problem I face.....some of you,,,I would say the majority...... would like me to defend every negative statement ever written against the church which you can post on the board....

  Now anyone with common sense knows that responding to that kind of an onslaught would not solve the principle issue.

  I could have been Jesus christs next door neighbor and mentioned things he undoudtedly said as a man...[ he wasn't quoting scripture every second of his life....and didn't his own towns people run him out of town for making a declaration of himself?....How could a God or son of God talk like the rest of us......come on pleeeeeeeeeez use your heads.

  No matter who some one is people will have negative things to say...

  NOW the central idea is to establish if he ever did anytthing right first then we can look at all the wrong he supposedly did

  But I think I alresdy have my answer where you are concerned..REFINERS FIRE...your mind is already made up and you are not seeking to really understand that JOSEPH SMITH was or is a fraud you already KNOW SO! YOU did not read my POSTS nor did you seem to understand what everyone has been asking of me....THEY WANT EVIDENCE THAT JOSEPH SMITH IS A TRUE PROPHET OF GOD>>>>NO ONE ON THE PLANET WOULD EVER OF DISCOVERED AMERICA IF THEY CONTINUED TO BELIEVE WHAT EVEYONE WAS SAYING......

  QUANTUM HAVING TO ENDURE IGNORANCE!