I'd just like to express my appreciation as well! Your site was one of the first I allowed myself to look at and it educated me enough to never want to return. Your site helped me get past guilt I was feeling and a lot of anxieties. THANK YOU!!!!!
Monica
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my rewards
by Dogpatch infew people enjoy their work as much as i do.
here is a sample why.
to all of you who have websites, i know you get similar notes and cards.
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they wont leave me alone!
by zanex ini have a problem..i have been df'd for like 6 or 7 years i lose count but point is my parents are still stuck in the alternate dimension called jw and they seem to think that there is still a "chance" for me.
lol..funny shit i think but anyway, the town i live in just happens to house some of my friggin elder pop's elder friends...like i thought when i got df'd that meant they would leave me alone but now that i have a wife and kid that arent jw related at all my parents seem to think that my wife will "convert" i trust my wife better than that and i know that there is no way that she would ever do that..she is as cynical as i am..my prob is that they have infiltrated me at my work and i dont want to have to be an asshole about it but i just need them to leave me be...anybody got any ideas on things i can do shy of buying a fully automatic weapon and perching myself on my front doorstep?
anyway..i can hear the psychiatrist callin my name...lol..
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Zanex,
I guess I'd probably try to use that as an opportunity to educate them. You are DF'd so you have nothing to lose. However, if you do that with your family, that might push them away.
About the work situation, I like the advice of the stickers, but I think it would be a good thing too if you brought up the UN thing to the girls in the office. Ask them what they think of the UN/WTBTS scandal. Ask them if the know what an NGO is and if they say 'no', tell them they should because the WTBTS was affiliated with it for 10 yrs. They won't want to talk to you after you tell them a thing or two. They'll surely keep their distance!
You don't have to be rude with them - a few questions here and there should quiet whoever it is you want distance from.
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Way Back When You Were A Witness.......
by LB inback in the dark ages did you used to come into message boards like this one, or h20 and try to defend the watchtower society?
i did and things didn't work out so well.
actually they worked out fine, i switched teams.
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I don't think any of these sites were around when I became inactive (late 80s). There were a few reasons why I left and I wouldn't say that the reasons had anything to do with 'doubts' per se and I don't even know if there were ex-jw sites back then.
In the mid-90s, I hooked up to the internet and one of the first things I typed in was 'Jehovah's Witnesses'. I was shocked that out of the first 10 options, 8 of them were ex-jw sites. At the time, I still held much of the JW beliefs and even felt guilty for clicking on the links. In fact, a lot of the subjects I couldn't even open.
I'd have to say that the internet isn't the reason why I left (I don't think it was around then), but the things I've learned on the internet in the past 6-7 yrs is definitely the reason why I stay away.
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Baby is here! Photos attached!
by LDH in11-19 3:30 pm 7 lbs 13 oz, 21 in.. i don't how how to add the photos, but if you want to see pictures, go to http://www.webphotos.com/list_albums.asp?mi=1&smi=1.
i think this is right (mommy help me!
lisa
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LDH,
What a beautiful baby!! Gorgeous! Congratulations to you and your family!
Monica
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The BESTEST present ever! (NOT)
by LDH inafter reading a few threads regarding the upcoming christmas season, i thought i'd post a funny story, and ask you to add to it.. if you've ever received a wacky present, or one you had to pretend that you liked, please post it.. about 5 years ago, when i first started celebrating christmas with hubby, i got a real shocker of a present.
a deep fryer.. now, hubby was *very* proud of himself.
you see, about three months prior to christmas we were going through costco (warehouse type store) when i noticed they had a nice little deep fryer.
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I have a good one!
After we started celebrating Christmas again, our family would go all out. We'd really spoil each other and spent every last penny to make up for all the years we missed. My boyfriend of 4 yrs was a bit on the cheap side when it came to spending (especially when it involved spending money on me).
One year, I was eyeing a *new* stereo system and I figured each of my family could get a piece or two of the system for me for Christmas and whatever they didn't get, I'd buy the rest myself. I was sure I'd get most of it and I wouldn't need to spend much more than $100 myself.
Well!!! My wonderful boyfriend (an ex now) told my family to nevermind that he had it all covered! My mom was a little bit skeptical and tried to get info out of him, but he assured her that he had it taken care of. On Christmas Eve, he couldn't hold it back any more and produced two wrapped boxes. I opened them and noticed they were two pieces to a stereo system, but not the one I had wanted.
He then asked enthusiastically, "Do they look familiar?" and I had to honestly reply that this wasn't the stereo system I was looking at (but I did thank him). He then said, "That's because it's MY old stereo system! I bought myself a new one and gave you a couple pieces of my old one so that you can build from that!"
That's not the end of it! He then proceeded to tell me that he was going to place an ad in the local paper to sell the rest of his old stereo system (speakers, CD player, tape deck). Then he made me an offer! He told me that he'd sell the rest of his system to me for half the price that he was going to list it in the paper for. GRRRRRR!!!
That was my BESTEST present ever!
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I FEEL SO USED
by Serena ini have been "fooling around" with brother charlie for a couple months.
going to his apartment and spending the night with him.
i am so in love with him, i would do anything for him, anything at all.
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Serena,
I'm so sorry for your pain! I've been in your exact same shoes and I can tell you that I understand the agony that you are going through. The above advice to lose this guy is the best advice anyone can give you.
I remember hearing the same above advice and it was so crushing to me, because I just held out hope that somehow this guy would have a change of heart and actually see what he was missing out on and somehow develop feelings for me. I remember how much I hated to hear the advice to just 'lose him, he's no good.'
It wasn't until later that I realized what good advice it was. I mean, there's no better advice in a situation like that. You can't control his feelings and make him feel differently about you and s-e-x most definitely won't make him have emotions for you. But you have inner-strength to change the way you feel about him. It might not feel like it, but it's there. Believe me when I tell you that this experience will make you stronger and your inner-strength will get you through this.
Someone above said to sort of treat this like an addiction - try to get it out of your system. I thought that was good advice. It seems as though you have a hard time telling him no when he invites you over. I remember how hard it was to say 'no' to a guy that I was emotionally attached to. I guess what helped me, is that I had friends and family who were aware of what was going on. When this guy would ask me over, I'd call one of them and they'd talk me out of it (in fact, once my brother physically blocked me from going out the door. LOL!! Good bro I have!). I always felt so much better the next morning. When you tell him "no" and when you wake up the next morning knowing you told him no, it's such a relief to know that you had that strength. Reward yourself for times when you tell him no. Reward that strength! But try your hardest to cut him off. Try REALLY hard. The quicker you do, the quicker your heart will mend.
Please email me if you ever need someone to talk to.
Monica
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Who sang this song?
by hungry4life ini have been trying to figure out the title and singer of song i heard on the radio a few years ago.
all i remember about the lyrics is that a guy is in a record store and runs into an old girlfriend they go into a cafe and talk about all kinds of things (it's snowing outside) when they finally go their seperate ways the snow turns into rain.
does this sound familiar to anyone it has driven me nuts.
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This sounds like it:
Song: Same Old Lang Syne
Artist/Band: Dan Fogelberg
Lyrics are found here:
* http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/9523/music.html
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JWs Stopped By Today....
by Monica ina jw couple stopped by my house today.
i was typing away on my computer when there was a knock at my door.
i turned around and could see a guy in a suit and knew who it was!
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Hi TR!! (long time no talk!) I read about that visit last week. Maybe on their next visit you could wear an outfit that best resembles your new lifestyle! (heehee - just giving you a hard time!)
You are right though. Not much gets through to them, but it's still fun trying!
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JWs Stopped By Today....
by Monica ina jw couple stopped by my house today.
i was typing away on my computer when there was a knock at my door.
i turned around and could see a guy in a suit and knew who it was!
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I just wanted to say that YES I did have fun and YES I'd do it again! It's just too bad it will be at least another six months. It would have been a little more interesting if I would have been more prepared. Since they haven't come by in 3.5 yrs, I didn't think today would be the day!
Prisca - You have to move!!! That was way too fun!!
Unclepenn - If I would have played dumb any longer, I would have been rolling on the floor with laughter. However, next time, I'll invite them in! Then they won't be able to leave so fast!! I'll make them sit on the love seat so they'll have to get past me to leave!
Lionel - thanks for the link. I'll check it out!
Wanna - LOL at the letter idea!I just really tried hard to not get too emotional and riled up, and just tried hard to let them see my nice, cheerful, chipper side.
I called my husband after they left and he laughed and said, "so, you were easy on them, huh?" Today, I was easy on them! I was in a playful mood today and had some fun. Next time, no telling what they'll get! LOL!!
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JWs Stopped By Today....
by Monica ina jw couple stopped by my house today.
i was typing away on my computer when there was a knock at my door.
i turned around and could see a guy in a suit and knew who it was!
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A JW couple stopped by my house today. I was typing away on my computer when there was a knock at my door. I turned around and could see a guy in a suit and knew who it was! :o) This is the first visit we've had in the 3.5 yrs we've lived here. (Background about me - I was a JW from the time I was 5 till 19 and our family has been inactive for nearly 14 yrs.)
I hurried around and made sure my kids were distracted so I could talk to them some. When I opened the door he looked rather startled. He did a nice little greeting and then introduced himself and his wife.
Then he started with off with Daniel 2:44 and I looked at their bibles but they said "Holy Bible" rather than NWT. So I was wondering if in fact they were JWs. After he read the scripture, I put my hand up and said, "Excuse me. Are you two Jehovah's Witnesses?" and the wife nodded and said that they were. I said, "Oh okay, I thought so. Please continue." (I can't believe I had to ask! LOL!!) I think that surprised them a bit and so then he went on to the next scripture of the Lord's prayer. By the time he started reading it though, I started smiling and by the time he finished reading it, I was trying to cover my smile with my hand. When he finished, he asked if there was something funny about the scripture. I kind of laughed a little and said, "No! I"m really very sorry! Please continue!"
So then he flipped to another one (I can't remember - I was just trying so hard not to bust up). Then he finished that one and I said, "I'm sorry! But you know what? I'm really very knowledgeable about your beliefs and isn't it true that you believe Armageddon is going to come along soon and a loving and merciful God will wipe out nearly 6 billion people and leave just you Jehovah's Witnesses?"
He said, "Well actually.... ummmm..... well that's not REALLY what we believe." I raised my eyebrow at him with a big smile and then he fumbled around and read the scripture about how He doesn't want to kill everyone. And I said something like 'yes, that's an interesting scripture, isn't it!'
Then he talked about how He reads hearts. So I said "absolutely! I believe that too! But Jehovah's Witnesses STILL believe they will be the majority of the ones who survive Armageddon, don't they? Isn't that why you are out here today?"
Then the wife said, "Have you studied with the Witnesses before?" I said, "Actually I have family that are still members and I'm very knowledgeable about your teachings." The looks on their faces at that point completely changed and both their eyes were very big.
Then I said, "in fact, I probably know more about your religion than the two of you will ever know." Then the guy's bible closed. And I continued with "I've even read some of the stuff that you two are forbidden to read." I paused because I thought one of them was going to have a heart attack when I said that. Then I said, "If Armageddon does come tomorrow at least I can say that I have looked at BOTH sides." I think the guy was trying to figure out a way to close the conversation, but he didn't say anything so I continued with a concerned "You know - you two should never let anyone tell you what you can and can't read. I pray that someday you two will realize that."
Unfortunately, I would have had to chase after them or start yelling to tell them about the NGO/DPI stuff. Oh well! Next time I'll be a little more prepared and it will come out quicker!
They seemed like a nice young couple and I thought the conversation went really well.
After they walked away, I could see that they were going to walk up to my next door neighbor's house, but it looked like they changed their minds. It was nearing noon, so I must have been their last call of the day.
I wish I had something more interesting to report. But hey! I was probably their most exciting call of the day, right?