Posts by MrDarkKnight

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Get ready - the final end of everything October 21

by wannabefree in

perhaps this has already been addressed, i looked ... i thought you might want to know, not much time left ..... harold camping .... some time after being released from a nursing home in june after suffering a stroke, camping, released an audio message on family radio's website saying, "we would have not been able to be used [by god] to bring about the tremendous event that occurred on may 21 of this year, which probably [will] be finished out on oct. 21 that's coming very shortly.

that looks like it will be ... the final end of everything.".

http://www.christianpost.com/news/harold-camping-update-rapture-will-probably-finish-oct-21-57197/.

MrDarkKnight

When will the 19th Century end of the world bullshit end?

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Whatever happened to the UN in JW prophecy?

by wha happened? in

is it me or is the un no longer the enemy?

when i was studying all i heard about was the un banning religions.

do any current articles discuss this anymore?.

MrDarkKnight

@MadSweeney...You are correct. I was at Bethel when the Berlin wall fell. There was the unspoken expectation that something big would happen. Each year that passed since 1989 was a disappointment. The prosperity that came with the Clinton presidency caused many JWs like me to relax and get high paying jobs, buy homes, buy BMWs and God forbid...have KIDS!!!!!!!

9/11 was supposed to be the precursor to something big. The Kingdom Halls were PACKED that week in the US!!!! But 10 years later JWs are irrelevant the message is watered down and no one interprets prophecy anymore.

Avoiding pornography, apostasy, education and materialism are the big issues...oh and knock on as many not at home doors as you can!

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Steve Jobs message @ death. ALL JWS NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS!!!

by itscrap&theyknowit! in

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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2011/10/06/jobs-stanford-commencement-dying.cnn?hpt=hp_t1.

i cried when i watched this.

the message: don't let another human's opinion ruin your life!

MrDarkKnight

Its amazing how much this resonates with me at this moment...I have spent so much of my life living for the future and very little of it living for the moment, the only life I have. I plan for the future finacially but now I live for the moment and I am very content with that.

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Secret Elders Meetings & Armaggedon Checklists from FDS ...

by Hairyhegoat in

the faithful slave has put out a list of things they think jw's should have on hand, due to the closeness of armaggedon.

if jw's dont have such a list they can ask their local elders for a copy of such.... .

does anyone know about such a list ???.

MrDarkKnight

This all started after 9/11. It was the first time that the GB had disaster in their own backyard. They realized that it would be a good idea if everyone else was ready.

Nevermind the fact that everyone outside the US faced terrorism years before the US did. If this is not evidence of the fact that this is an American religion driven by what happens in the US nothing else is. Hell, the dropping of the bookstudy arrangement was driven by the high gas prices in the US in 2007-2008. The rest of the world was already paying 5 or 6 dollars a gallon. The poor US suffers and we drop a meeting.

Bullshit.

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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans

by Unlearn in

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i'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.

it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.

more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.

MrDarkKnight

@Unlearn...Its funny, when I was younger and at Bethel the GB had an "aura". Franz and Schroeder had the scholarly, oracle thing going and the whole arrangement seemed on the real almost supernatural. Sydlik, Gangas and Klein humanized the GB. Jaracz, Barry, Barr kept us focused on the organization,its history, its progress and its goals. Barber provided the comic relief. But as I moved up in Bethel food chain I saw the underbelly of the beast: ass kissing, politics, favoritism, coverups, cronyism and the relentless quest for position and authority by men who would never be highly regarded in the secular world.

When the old GB started to die off and were replaced by the new GB, the "aura" was suddenly gone. When guys I knew and drank beer with as 19 year old Bethelite started to become lawyers, service departmnet deskmen and writers, I started to sense something was very wrong. if you notice there has not been a publication that provides explanaton of prohesy since the Isaiah book almost 10 years ago. All the books on the prophets in the last ten years focus on MORAL lessons. What happened to interpreting PROPHECY? That power seems to have died with the original GB.

The guys writing the publications now are guys I grew up with at Bethel. Guys I know. Guys who were just like me. And even though I was adored by the friends as a "loving" elder and highly regarded speaker I knew I was a sham that the whole thing was a sham because no matter what I did in secret, the privileges and the accolades kept on flowing.

I too feel bad about the people I hurt over years by enforcing the WT laws. When I look at it now its amazing how much of the policy and procedure we used as elders is not based on scripture at all but on organizational policy. I was embarrassed for the many sisters who had to describe in great detail, to three men and in some cases their husbands, the various sexual experiences in order to demonstrate repentance. Husbands guilty of adultery were not required to have their wives present, but wives were required to have their husbands present. That is total bullshit. I feel badly for the abused children whose parents would not heed my rogue advice to call the police because the experts in the Legal department told them not to. Bastards. I knew a family where every child was sexually abused and the parents did nothing because the Legal Department told them to do nothing. The damage to this kids is unbelievable and it pains me even as I write this. I feel badly for the mentally ill who were disfellowshipped when they should have been directed to qualified professional help. I feel badly for the free spirits who had no problem expressing thier views but were branded as rebellious, subversive, the Jezebel influence and eventually as apostate and DF'ed. Mostly I feel badly for my son who is still in with my estranged wife. I want to help him, but if I do they will cut me off from him.

I toonam now rambling.

I have only been on the forum for a few months. It is great to have someone in the group who really understands on a very personal level the horror of what we have done to people who deserved better.

It is a shame. I only hope that I can learn to forgive myself and REALLY move on.

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I just can't do this anymore

by Awen in

dear friends:.

for years now after my exit from the wtbts i have searched for god.

as i have previously mentioned in other threads i looked into many other religions, including druidry, zen and tibetan buddhism (not really a religion), asatru, native american shamanism, kemetic orthodoxy, gnosticism and pandeism.

MrDarkKnight

@Awen...well written...and you saved me a lot of time. I don't know either and I am not sure that it really matters. So I focus on my career, my new love and my new life! I try to live each to the fullest because I do know that tomorrow is not promised.

Good luck in your journey.

DK

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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans

by Unlearn in

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i'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.

it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.

more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.

MrDarkKnight

@Unlearn...We are kindred spirits...I was 25 when appointed an elder...CA at 29..DC at 31..PO at 32...I never had a "relationship with God" but I knew how to kiss ass, smchooz and climb the theocratic ladder...the "privileges" I had were a treasure to me..I chuckle now because I realize how litte they actual mean in real life. I wasted a lot of time.

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Proof of God or Christ without a holy book

by Awen in

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in some previous posts i have asked certain questions that still haven't been answered.

so without going back to those threads and possibly de-railing them i thought it best to make a new topic.

please bear with me.. i have asked certain ones to prove the existence of god or christ without referencing any biblical writings or characters.

MrDarkKnight

My 'beef' with God is why? Why such an intelligent creator allows all this craziness in the world to ensue? Why all the religious beliefs? Why do it through an ancient set of writings? Why not reveal yourself to the WORLD, in a manner befitting an ALMIGHTY GOD? Why not make a CLEAR CASE for yourself, and your identity?

This is the question I have asked time and again. Why make is to hard to be found? Why make it confusing? Why my must I rely on men, both dead and alive to believe? Why not just manifiest yourself to EVERYONE and get it overwith? Why not? SMH.

And yet despite it all, I still believe in God, not in organized religion, but in God. Things that make you go Hmmmm. SMH.

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Walk Away

by breakfast of champions in

no, not the joe walsh song.

one of our last co visits, he was railing on the apostates who can't just shut up and be quiet.

rabble rousers.

MrDarkKnight

The one thing that WTBS cannot tolerate is anything that makes them look bad, especially to the rank and file. The Internet is attacting more and more lurkers and information that most Witnesses never new existed if available.

The information is making WTB S look bad and they cannot take it. What Legal Department cannot handle must be spun by the Service Department and its agents, the COs and DOs.

If you leave you are a potential danger and must be silenced.

That is the TRUTH.

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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans

by Unlearn in

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i'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.

it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.

more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.

MrDarkKnight

Unlearn, as a former Presiding Overseer, CA an DO speakr, Bethel Elder I REALLY feel you brother! Nothing like practicing your DO orCO part and then rolling home listening to Snoop Dogg and Doctor Dre encouraging me to drink gin and juice or letting me that it Nothing but a G Thang!

It took me eight years to finally leave. I was in psychiatric ward three times before an old friend who is an ex-Witness herself helped me see that it was the double life of super elder and closet liberal that was messing with my mind. The "truth" was making me mentally diseased!

I am free and happy now. And my ex-Witness friend that helped me...she is now the love of my life!

Be cool brother!