MrDarkKnight

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  JW leadership vacuum - explained!

  by sir82 in

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  jw leadership shows an appalling lack of creativty and originality.. -- meeting attendance down across the board?

  let's keep the same 1940's format anyway!.

  -- missionaries quitting their assignments?

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  @Sir82...This is the premise of the book, "The Peter Principle", that people are promoted to their level of imcompetence. I read this book when I was a young 23 year old at Bethel. A fellwo Bethelite and I were rather cynical and used to joke about the fact that the more incompetent you were the higher you seemed to rise. I talked to him recently. We are both out of Bethel but we both have still have copies of this book.

  I had no idea that 22 years later I would see this at the highest levels of the organization. The most incompetent people truly have risen to the top!

  Great post!
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  No More Missionaries

  by Lunatic Faith in

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  has anyone heard about this?

  we received an email from an old friend who is still an elder and doesn't know what we are up to.

  "a change, they are no longer training missionaries and sending them into foreign fields.

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  It's interesting that the focus of Gilead has turned from providing training to bring people in to providing training to keep people in.
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  Whats hot? Curves or Not?

  by facebeauty in

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  ok there are alot of threads on this board about weight and attractiveness.

  so i'm curious as to.

  what guys or ladies here, find "hot"..... so for example are you a fan of the "keira knightley and kate moss" look or the christina.

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  I like big butts and I cannot lie
  You other brothers can't deny
  That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
  And a round thing in your face -

  Sir Mix-A-Lot
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  JWN is enjoying a renaissance!

  by Mickey mouse in

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  the past few months we've welcomed a lot of newbies who have contributed a lot to this forum.

  some quality discussions are taking place, the likes of which i haven't seen here for a while.

  in addition, many are taking action to expose the watchtower society for who they really are.

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  @johnathan dough and new chapter - I think one of the reasons that there is not much in the way of theological debate is because their rich library of posts from 1o years that we newbies can review. I findn some of the older threads EXTREMELY interesting.

  Also, frankly there is not much in the way of new material being provided by JWs to discuss and refute. No new interpretations of prophecy, not major doctrinal changes and they have pretty much stayed off the radar the last few years.

  However I was directed to this site by Barbara Anderson as place to heal and find understanding and I personally have found that very beneficial.

  Thank you all.

  MDK
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  The Faithful and Discreet Slave - A JW Myth

  by 00DAD in

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  probably this topic has been dealt with before, but i'm relatively new here, so perhaps y'all will be willing to indulge me in my pursuit for clarity.

  regarding the anointed, the gb recently said this: .

  "we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.

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  This is a great thread. But ever since I was 16 I had trouble with Matthew 24:45. I just did not buy it. I had a real bright young man that I studied the Bible with back in 1982. He was drinking the kool aid until we got Matthew 24:45. He did not buy it because he sensed that I could not sell it because I did not buy it either.

  Here is the question I have always had: If 144,000 is the literal number of those going to heaven are you telling me that over 2,000 year period God could not find 70 or so good Christians a year to fill that number? Seriously? Really? For real?

  And I thought the number was supposed to go DOWN as the end drew near. Why has it swelled from 8,000 to 11,000? Why doesn't the GB reach out and talk to these people? Why do they avoid them and call the newer partakers new or unbalanced?
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  Seeking Reinstatement

  by Quendi in

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  no, i'm not seeking to be reinstated so don't worry.

  but i did want to raise a point in relation to this.

  i know this was true in my case and i've seen it in others i have talked to about this.

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  @Quendi...When I decided to become inactive, my 12 year old Son said he was concerned that I would die at Armaggeddon. His statement stabbed me in the heart particularly because I WAS THE ONE WHO TAUGHT HIM THIS! As I sat there looking at him I could not help but ask myself the question, What is the difference between teaching that the wicked will die at Armaggeddon or that all wicked people go to hell?

  Witnesses pride themselves in stating that a loving God would not torture people for all eternity, but have no probelm embracing a loving God who would terminate the lives of men, women and CHILDREN because they did not listen to Jehovah's Witnesses.

  I do not wish to be separated from my son which is why I chose the abrupt fade and inactivity rather than disassociation. I moved to another state to make it more difficult to be reached. I am slowly working on his thinking, so that he will see what he is learning for what it is and I can save him from a life of misery.

  With regard to the judicial process I realized today that as an elder I put FAR more people OUT of the organization than I brought in. And you are right. People miss the community and their families and that is why they want back in.

  However, many Witness families are VERY liberal and they associate with their disfellowshipped family members no matter what the organization says. You find this particuarly in matriarchal families where the women really have nothing to lose by ingoring this rule. In these families the DF'd ones MAKE NO ATTEMPT to return. Why? They HAVE NO REASON to return as they have NOT LOST what matters to them, their families. My ex-wife's family was this way. Her father was DF's for 26 years. When my ex-wife's family got stricter with him, her father did the routine and was reinstated even though he never stopped smoking or overdrinking. It was an honorary reintstatement. He died not too long after his "reinstatement."

  The whole judicial arrangement is unscriptural, unloving and inhumane. I am sure many Witnesses have ended up in therapy due this "tough love" as they call it.
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  JWs in the UK diferrent to USA or elsewhere?

  by punkofnice in

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  2. experiences

  i am in the uk.. i have an ex-jw relative in the usa.

  he says that having lived ib both the uk and the usa that the jws are different from the uk to the usa.. how true could this be?.

  at least int he area i grew up the term 'mother' for the organization is not familiar to me.

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  The mentality at Bethel in the US is that the further you get away from NYC the greater the deviation from organizational direction. At Bethel Californians are viewed as ultra-liberals. Europeans were viewed as the same. Wherer ex-Bethelites go there is a stronger influence of what leadership wants.
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  My sisters’ funeral service was just appalling. An absolute disgrace.

  by still wondering in

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  2. medical

  my sisters' funeral service was just appalling.

  an absolute disgrace.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical/216561/1/my-sister-died-this-morning-after-refusing-blood-on-four-occasions.

  the funeral was held today for my sister when every opportunity was used as a sales pitch to promote their malignant message, in this case to any non jw's that may be present, just like any other pyramid scam it seems.. the person whose funeral it is just has a minor bit part to play compared to the main feature , the promotion of the all encompassing multi-talented multi-tentacled wts that you can rely on to guide misguide and pervade every nook and cranny of your life including when to die.. and why not, because as gods only prophet to all mankind, they don't just hear gods voice, they are gods voice.. ***watchtower 1957 june 15 p.370*** "it is vital that we respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of god.

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  I am sorry for your loss. I hope you can find comfort in the memories you have of your sister.

  MDK
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  January 2012 WT Study edition on PDF pulled from JW.org website

  by bnybyt in

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  2. beliefs

  the wt study edition is getting a facelift for the new year.. the january issue had been posted on jw.org but.... the boes hadn't received notice by letter of such a change.. the wts likes to play up every opportunity to have a new release.. this time the jw.org techies jumped the gun and went on to post.

  the issues for download according to their established schedule.. unfortunately, they went ahead of the fds/gb who too late .

  realized the cat was out of the bag, sort of saying.. well, it got pulled off the website, for now at least.. what's so secretive about it?.

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  Judging from the pictures one of the articles is an attempt to regurgitate the video they released at last years convention and connect Wycliff, Tysdale, Storrs, Grew and Russell. Oh brother, here we go!
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  Has Gambling Become A Conscience Issue Among JWs?

  by FreeAtLast1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the reason i ask is that i have a coupe of cousins who are still jws who have gone gambling in casinos with us.

  i have a brother-in-law who openly brags about his "perfect" blackjack strategy he employs in vegas when he's in town.. i know that growing up as a jw, gambling of any kind was a dfing offense.. is my jw family simply more liberal than most, or has there been a subtle shift in this area since i've been out?.

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  @Dagney...JWs go buck wild on cruises...the WT rules don't count then...