Posts by Acluetofindtheuser

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When did Watchtower writings start becoming anonymous?

by Wild_Thing in

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i think most people know that authorship was credited in the old watchtower literature, but at some point everything became anonymous.

i still do not know exactly when this started, but i found this in charles taze russell's last will and testament.

his will was not honored in other respects, so i doubt they would have honored this request.

Acluetofindtheuser

Angels and Women was not published by the WT. It was endorsed by them in the Golden Age, and reportedly the reprint/ revision of Seola was done by some of the Russell era Bible Students, but the fact remains that it was not published under the Watchtower label.

It might as well have been written under the WT label. The Angels and Women revision has 36 Appendix notes mentioned throughout the novel. All these notes reference publications of the Bible Students to support the passage in the book. The Appendix section quotes the following Bible Student works.

The harp of God

Studies in the scriptures volume I, II, IV, V, VI, VII

Photo-drama of creation

A desirable government

Thankfully the novel does not have a question for each paragraph.

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When did Watchtower writings start becoming anonymous?

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

i think most people know that authorship was credited in the old watchtower literature, but at some point everything became anonymous.

i still do not know exactly when this started, but i found this in charles taze russell's last will and testament.

his will was not honored in other respects, so i doubt they would have honored this request.

Acluetofindtheuser

I have never heard of Angels and Women. Was it a significant book in Russell or Rutherford's time?
Without knowing what the book is about, I will say that I have read about many women writing things and either using a male pseudonym or giving it no authorship at all. That could be a possibility in this case.

The 1924 revised edition was authorized by Rutherford because they endorsed it in a 1924 Golden Age magazine, which is now called Awake. They renamed the revised version to "Angels and Women" from the original title "Seola".

The original author, Ann Eliza Smith published her other books under her husband's name. This is how her name was shown in authorship to them:

From Dawn to Sunrise - Mrs J.G. Smith (1876)

Seola - Anonymous (1878) - It's written as a diary from an ancient person

Selma - Mrs J. Gregory Smith (1883)

Atla - J.G. Smith (1886)

Notes of Travels - Mrs. J. Gregory Smith (1886)

She gave a special exception to the book, Seola with claiming authorship. The novel mainly reads as a diary and she lets the main character remain the author. The main character's name is Seola, the wife of Japheth.

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When did Watchtower writings start becoming anonymous?

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

i think most people know that authorship was credited in the old watchtower literature, but at some point everything became anonymous.

i still do not know exactly when this started, but i found this in charles taze russell's last will and testament.

his will was not honored in other respects, so i doubt they would have honored this request.

Acluetofindtheuser

Russell and or Rutherford could have picked up the idea of writing anonymously from the original author who wrote Angels and Women. I'm not talking about the 1924 revised edition. I'm talking about the original 1878 version which left out any authorship.

The Library of Congress data revealed the original author was Mrs John Gregory Smith, AKA Ann Eliza Smith.

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Born again or born from above

by Steel in

last year i was at the memorial and the speaker was saying something about how the phrase born again was actually a mistake and it should say born from above.

jesus was actually referring to those with a heavenly hope.

last night i was flipping the channels and there is a religious program talking about being born again.

Acluetofindtheuser

Then why symbolically eat the flesh and blood of Jesus if your supposed to be a spirit in heaven?

Sounds more like a metaphor about adapting to his perfect genetic code and splicing in on to ours.

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When Will Jehovah`s Witnesses Appoint A Woman As A Governing Body Member.? It`s Long Overdue !

by smiddy3 in

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jehovah himself gives the saying "the women telling the good news are a large army" psalms 68 : 11 coupled with the fact that a good portion of women partake of the emblems and wine at the annual memorial celebration.. identifying themselves as part of the 144000 that are taken from the earth to rule with christ jesus in the heavens.. isn`t it about time they were recognized for their contributions and given the fact that gods word the bible clearly states that 144,000 of anointed are to be taken from the earth which many women are a large part of.?.

revelation ch.14 :4 could be argued that they are not lesbians { "these are the ones who do not defile themselves with women ,in fact they are virgins, etc,etc.}.

i wonder just how many men who claim to be of the anointed have not defiled themselves with women and are virgins.?.

Acluetofindtheuser

Most of the men that have been governing body members never qualified for 144,000 status anyway. Revelation 14 excludes both women and married men in this group. Any GB who was never married always held the trump card in voting with his peers. Do you remember which ones never married?

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George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films

by LoveUniHateExams in

just thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.

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as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .

Acluetofindtheuser

A friend of mine found out that Mark Hamill complained to the director about the role his character would play throughout TLJ. Mark also thought it was wrong to do something particular at the end of the movie. Don't want to spoil it for others. They should have listened to Mark. They're pissin' all over this sacred SCI-FI drama.

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1975 to 2075 a family story.

by waton in

a fictional, composite tale of many true elements from a city called bostronno.

a young family man from a devout jw family was swept away in the late 60s by the enthusiasm to be in paradise by 1975. it all started at a book study with some very sincere and serious bible study members.

he turned his branch of the prosperous family business over to his brothers, and searched for a place to serve the rest of the old system's time out- in comfort and where the need was great.

Acluetofindtheuser

Thanks for your comments wanton. They were very logical.

The Jonah comment you said made me think of past and current JW artwork. The part about it being an event that could never happen. Look at the different sea creatures the art department has chosen throughout the years. They can't seem to stick to one type of creature.

My book of bible stories (1978) = Sperm Whale (pg 70)

?????(can’t remember which book) = Great White

Lessons you can learn from the bible (2017) = Whale Shark (pg 130)

The current WT is stuck on the translated words "Big Fish" from the OT. When I saw the book with the great white I just rolled my eyes because the WT artist wasn’t even trying to make it believable. I thought since the sperm whale breathed air I thought there was a chance with a miracle. Now you introduce a real fish that breathes with gills then I say even God can’t do that. I know the account said “fish” but the ancients didn’t separate aquatic mammals from fish back then. The big fish could still be a whale. I know the story could be fantasy but please make it a tiny bit realistic. The sperm whale is a slight maybe, the whale shark keeps Jonah in one piece but he is still dead due to drowning. The great white automatically makes Jonah mincemeat and it doesn't matter if he needs to breath anymore. They should have drawn a blue whale instead. That way there might be room for Jonah in the mouth.

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1975 to 2075 a family story.

by waton in

a fictional, composite tale of many true elements from a city called bostronno.

a young family man from a devout jw family was swept away in the late 60s by the enthusiasm to be in paradise by 1975. it all started at a book study with some very sincere and serious bible study members.

he turned his branch of the prosperous family business over to his brothers, and searched for a place to serve the rest of the old system's time out- in comfort and where the need was great.

Acluetofindtheuser

What if you don't partake of the memorial emblems but God's spirit has chosen you to be one of the 144,000? Do you get disqualified for not partaking or does he make an exception because of the mass confusion?

What if the spirit calls you but you don't want to go to heaven? Can you refuse like Jonah?

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Aliens

by Jayk in

i thought i was weird that i believe in aliens.

until i remembered that people believe there is a god..

Acluetofindtheuser

It appears aliens and UFO's took a step forward in reality with the recent Pentagon disclosure videos.

Department of Defense released video of Navy jets chasing after UFO in 2004

Good Morning America TV discussing about released video footage of UFO

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2005 Big Announcement (Disappointment)

by Fred Franztone in

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i remember around 2005, there was an announcement made from the platform that in a few weeks time we would have to remain at the end of the sunday meeting for a big announcement, directly from the society.. i remember all the murmuring, people thought maybe this was going to be related to armageddon.

everyone was excited, people were speculating.

only the po in each congregation had any idea what was going on, and they were frequently pestered for information, but sworn to secrecy, which only hyped things up even more.. then the meeting came, anticipation was in the air, the announcement started, you could hear a pin drop.

Acluetofindtheuser

These "Special" announcements by the WT throughout the years have been so disappointing. Talk about a kill-joy.

I wonder if there will be a "Special Needs" talk now that the US Government has disclosed the existence of alien visitors? Elder from the platform says, "Folks, these alien vessels seen in the media recently are demons and you should not look at them." They probably would not hold such a meeting because it would be too interesting.

Pentagon released video of UFO chased by 2 Navy jets in 2004 off San Diego California

Good Morning America TV show discussing about released video footage