Posts by Acluetofindtheuser

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New Article - Birthdays, Why the Watchtower stance is wrong

by jwfacts in

i have a new article at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/birthdays.php outlining why the watchtower stance against birthdays is wrong.

there have been a number of threads on jwn discussing this, and the article collates and summarises the points raised in these threads.

please feel free to point out any errors in grammar or logic.

Acluetofindtheuser

The article on birthday celebrations by jwfacts was nicely written.

Another detail to add would be that birthdays would had to have been celebrated before and after the flood. A number of people mentioned in Genesis knew exactly when a person was born and died in the listing of the genealogies. That celebration would be the reminder of how old you were in the stream of time. We knew birthday details of Noah, Shem, Abraham and many more faithful people in early bible times because it mentions exactly when they died.

If God thought birthdays were evil he would have spelled it out the prohibition in the Mosaic Law. Since he did not do that then celebrating birthdays is not a sin and the jw leadership is presumptuous on God's thinking. One of the first kings of Israel was accused of presumptuousness by God and we knew what happened to him. God left him and would no longer give him divine instructions. Same thing has happened to the leadership in the jw religion.

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Jesus is a horse?

by Diogenesister in

jgnat posted this in one of punky's posts.

third century.

why is jesus portrayed as a horse, does anyone know please?.

Acluetofindtheuser

I wonder if the graffiti has anything to do with the October Horse sacrifice ritual that is dedicated to Mars the Roman god of war.

On October 15 they have a two-horse chariot race and the winning horse that is on the right side is sacrificed. Its head and tail are removed and used in two different ceremonies. Two neighborhoods stage a fight for the right to display the head of the horse.

Romans did not eat horse meat and this is the only time a horse would be slaughtered. That would explain why there's a horse head laying around to be put over a man's head on a cross. It's the wrong month for Jesus crucifixion but it's still proof that the Romans were using the cross as a form of torture in the 3rd century, once again proving JW's wrong on another matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Horse

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How did you learn the truth about the truth?

by Iamallcool in

any takers?.

Acluetofindtheuser

The contradictions in the bible to the WT teachings and the many failed predictions.

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1995 generation change

by Gorb in

jw
friends

now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

Acluetofindtheuser

I think the clue to the end of it all is when Jesus is identified as the son of man. The apostles asked him the three questions while sitting on the mound of olives:

Matthew 24

1. When will these things be? - Throwing down of the physical temple.

2. Sign of your presence - Where he is not to be found anywhere but his influence is more like the lightning effect.

3. Conclusion of the system of things - When he comes as the son of man in the heavens and when the powers of the heavens are shaken.

Luke 17:22 records Jesus as saying this statement to his apostles, "Days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the son of man, but you will not see it."

My understanding from this scripture is that those who heard Jesus say these words will not be around when he comes in power as the son of man in his second coming. These people were alive when he ascended into the clouds but they never witness his return. I can only assume that word "generation" is not the right word to use in Matthew 24:34. it should be replaced with the term Jewish Nation. I guess this labels me an apologetic in trying to make sense of the bible. So be it.

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1995 generation change

by Gorb in

jw
friends

now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

Acluetofindtheuser

Jesus was answering an Italian's, a gentil's question

I see no mention in any of the four gospels where Pilate the Italian gentile was told the statement by Jesus that he will come on the clouds of heaven in power on his return.

Matthew 26:57-65 said that Jesus was only before Caiaphas the high priest, the chief priests and the entire Sanhedrin when he said, "Jesus said to him [Ciaphas]: "You yourself said it. But I say to you: From now on you will see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of power and coming on the clouds of of heaven."

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1995 generation change

by Gorb in

jw
friends

now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

Acluetofindtheuser

Incidentally some Christadelphians read “this generation will not pass away until all these things occur” as meaning “this race of people will not pass away until all these things occur” referring to the Jews as a people now restored to Israel.

slimboyfat's comment above really got to me as a PIMO witness. The current generation teaching of the organization is bunk and makes no sense whats so ever. The Christadelphian view seems to correspond to another comment made by Jesus when he was on trial. When the high priest was trying to force Jesus' true identity the high priest convinced Jesus to say the following,"...From now on you will see the son of man sitting at the right hand of power and coming on the clouds of heaven." Since Jesus has not come back yet I understand this comment to mean that the Jews will still be around as a nation to see his his future return. The generation meaning has to be a group of people and not a time period.

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Most doubts aren't created by apostates. They are created in a Kingdom Hall.

by pistolpete in

i found this interesting perspective on reddit.. post;.

i remember the moment the first real crack in my faith happened as a jehovah's witness.

i was sitting in the kingdom hall during the watchtower study where, as is common, the article was talking about how the israelites as a nation abandoned jehovah.. "but wait," i thought, "having a nation represent him here on earth was part of his plan.

Acluetofindtheuser

Reading the bible and thinking for myself opened my eyes. A person can play dumb for only so long.

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This morning's WT: mundane miracle and another hint

by neat blue dog in

more proof of god's backing!.

on friday, april 19, 2019 .

a crowd of 20,919,041 gathered to observe the memorial of jesus’ death.

Acluetofindtheuser

If they keep pushing that 120 year preaching period leading up to 2034, then they should publish a watchtower that states the book of Jasher is now part of the bible cannon. Only the book of Jasher spells out a 120 preaching campaign of Noah before the decree to flood the world. Genesis is kind of cryptic as to what the 120 year period is meant to be for. Is it is a countdown to the flood or a reduction in the human lifespan? Also, who in bethel got the big booming message from the sky in 1914 that declared mankind has 120 years left before the big A?

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We got a letter addressed to Barbara Anderson and my husband!

by 3rdgen in

no kidding!

the return address is the po box for the local kh.

the letter was addressed: .

Acluetofindtheuser

That sounds like the work of a psycho. You said she was even "kookie as can be" when you saw her last. I knew of one pioneer sister that's my mom's age who was beyond weird. If you think people are turned away from the strange JW message can you image the horror they fell when it's one of these crazy ladies at their door.

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Why Does It Seem That Black People Are Always Being Shot By The Police?

by minimus in

jw
friends

there is either a conspiracy against blacks in this country and police are out to get them or it’s that they are getting caught breaking the law and often times refuse to obey police authority.

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Acluetofindtheuser

Maybe these black suspects don't feel understood by non-black police arresting them. They might be more cooperative if there's a black cop present at the scene.