Nobody is part of the 144,000 in revelation unless you are single and can master that special song, that includes most if not all of the JW's that ever existed. That song mastery detail is very cryptic, If I remember right the morning stars sang together when the created universe was completed as per Job. So maybe when one of these chosen ones dies they poof into a star in the Milkyway galaxy and start resonating.
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How do JWs know that less than 150,000 Christians existed before the 20th Century?
by Vanderhoven7 inaccording to watchtower, only anointed christians existed between the first and 20th centuries.
the great crowd of other sheep only began forming after the 20th century started.. how do they support this conclusion?
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Faithful Slave Appointment: What are the assumptions of Watchtower Matthew 24:45-47 Eschatology?
by Vanderhoven7 intext: matthew 24:45-47.
45 “who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?
46 it will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.
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Yeah, they need to remove the Norse god Hel from the king james bible where Sheol, Hades, Gehenna and Tartarus are placed. Just because they are part of the underworld doesn't mean they're the same thing. They are different words for a reason. It's like saying to, too and two are the same thing because they sound the same.
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Christians Encouraged to Read 'Pagan' Works
by peacefulpete inclement of alexandria.
the stromata, or miscellanies.
book vi.
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Wasn't it said in the literature that the Greek story of creation had a close resemblance with the bible when you use the books of Genesis and Peter for comparisons. I am referring to the fall of the titans being associated with the fallen angels of Genesis. Then Peter mentions their fate being the prison of Tartarus which is the same word used in the Greek story. It was a prison only for the gods.
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Is there “new light” on 1914?
by wallsofjericho ini’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .
is this regarding 1914?
or micheal the arch angel?.
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What about that Apophis asteroid coming in 2029? I read it was going to get near where the satellites orbit. Can the world temporarily live without communication and GPS location tracking if it does some damage? If something does happen the org may use this as "signs from heaven" proof.
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Snakes had legs until Eden curse! Watchtower 1880 till 1974!!!
by Witness 007 inoften flicking through watchtower bound volumes i would see pictures of eden which shows the snake in the tree of knowledge with legs??
even the photo drama of creation shows a snake with legs.. watchtower 1964 p.352 "genisis 3;14 {snake}on your belly you will go and dust you shall eat...before god curse it the snake had legs, that elivated it above the ground...god transformed it's body so that it ceased to have legs and was able to move on it's belly.".
god's eternal purpose 1974 "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimized by satan.. forrest gump watchtower science is price-less!.
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They believe the serpent had legs in the Watchtower June 1, 1964. Question from Readers.
They don't believe the serpent had legs in the Watchtower June 15, 2007. Question from Readers.
It all depends on who is in charge at the time.
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Snakes had legs until Eden curse! Watchtower 1880 till 1974!!!
by Witness 007 inoften flicking through watchtower bound volumes i would see pictures of eden which shows the snake in the tree of knowledge with legs??
even the photo drama of creation shows a snake with legs.. watchtower 1964 p.352 "genisis 3;14 {snake}on your belly you will go and dust you shall eat...before god curse it the snake had legs, that elivated it above the ground...god transformed it's body so that it ceased to have legs and was able to move on it's belly.".
god's eternal purpose 1974 "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimized by satan.. forrest gump watchtower science is price-less!.
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Both the Boa and Python share that vestigial rear limb gene. I saw a yellow python with some a long time ago at a public venue. The snake had large dual talons on either side of its body. They were rubbing up against the scales. It could move them at will. The talons looked like eagle claws.
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Depression & Isolation
by TxNVSue2023 ini've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.
i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).
i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.
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Welcome to the forum TxNVSue2023. This may not be the best place to get encouragement on staying with the organization. Many of us come here to question the decisions of those in charge. At least you can express your opinion here without being sent to the back room.
I don't think they'll let you go out in service yet even though you have been reinstated, A baptized relative of mine became inactive for years. When she decided to come back to the meetings a pioneer had to study with her. They want to find out if you are a true believer again. They want to make sure you will be preaching correct truths.
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Did Jesus Die On a Stake or a Cross?
by Sea Breeze indominic enyart exposes watchtower deception regarding their demonization of the cross.
information packed.
interesting take on paganism as well.
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It all boils down to Matthew 24:30. What that sign is, only the heavens know.
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Is there “new light” on 1914?
by wallsofjericho ini’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .
is this regarding 1914?
or micheal the arch angel?.
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Thanks for posting that image of The Herald of the Morning DisgruntledFool.
Herald of the Morning-No1,Vol7
I did not know the 1914 date was predicted way back in 1878. It is interesting to see how Barbour divided the timeline into three worlds per 2 Peter's account. It would have been cool if he could have explained the three heavens that were parallel in 2 Peter as well.
1st heavens: fallen angels ruled in human form
2nd heavens: No one ruled. It was a free for all
3rd heavens: 144,000 ruled from heaven. Oops that wasn't invented yet. Barbour & Russell rule from heaven
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Jehovah and Pleiades
by James Brown indoes anyone remember seeing old watchtowers in their kingdom hall library before they destroyed them all, of the watchtower annoucing jehovah from pleiades kingdom.
i am 72 years old and i remeber seeing these old magazines somewhere..
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This belief of Rutherford sounds like it was conceived from the fantasy novel Angels and Women published in 1924, which was based on an earlier novel entitled Seola in 1878. The WT had Seola refined to their liking and was then republished in 1924. Look at the difference between the two books with regard to the Great Center of which Rutherford was talking about, particularly the star Alcyone.
Angels and Women - 1924
Now notice in the original version of Seola we find out how many stars surround the Great Center. For some reason Rutherford wanted the seven stars not to be mentioned in the edited version. This definitely makes a connection to the Pleiades constellation.
Seola - 1878