Posts by braincleaned

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Atheists, what is the best argument FOR God?

by bohm in

there are no convincing arguments for god, but some are worse than others.

i thought it would be interesting to see what people consider the best (of the bad) arguments for god?.

in my oppinion it is the fine-tuning argument from cosmology.

Time to take my mask off.

by braincleaned in

after more than two years here on jwn, i will unmask myself and finally close the closet door behind me, fully coming out.. let me be pithy.. my name is vincent deporter.

i'm a writer/artist published a little all over the place.

i started my career in france, about 35 years ago.

Thank you Scott77! :)

mind blown, thanks — I will send you a FB request! ;)

His Excellency, yes indeed... the future is ours to grasp!

Wise advice NewYork44M — I did stay quite discreet, until I felt the need to frankly expose myself.
My editors know I'm an ex-JW... so I have no issue with it. On the contrary, I am quite happy to reveal myself as an ExJW. ;)
You can inbox me on FB and I'll send you a request! ;)
Accepted on LinkedIn...

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I give up

by KariOtt in

jw
friends

hubby is now giving 5 days a week to the cult.

they see more of him while he is awake than i do.

when he is home he is either sleeping or in his office on his computer.

braincleaned

I feel for you KariOtt... and alas I have no good advice. Find something to do that you like, or maybe think of moving on... easy said tho...
In any case, you have support here. (((hugs)))

Vince.

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1 John 4:8 God is Love?

by braincleaned in

in context of john 4, the love of god is manifest in that he has sent his only begotten son into the world, that we might live through him.. my questions are:.

where is there any hint of love that would justify the killing of animals for sacrifice, then.

leading to a human sacrifice?.

braincleaned

Tammy has no religion. She hears JC and she can tells us anything she wants, unverifiable... so no use to ANY of us.
I was obviously not aiming her in this OP, because she doesn't beleive in the angle that most christians have.
All she does is drop names — or name — we get it: she is JC's buddy. SHE gets the scoops. Damn...

What is more plausible, that JC talks to her directly, or that she needs clinical help for hearing the voice?

Ok... I'm outta here before I explode.

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1 John 4:8 God is Love?

by braincleaned in

in context of john 4, the love of god is manifest in that he has sent his only begotten son into the world, that we might live through him.. my questions are:.

where is there any hint of love that would justify the killing of animals for sacrifice, then.

leading to a human sacrifice?.

braincleaned

Gotta take a break before I get REALLY nasty... I paid too high a price for truth to not have to deal with this BS!

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1 John 4:8 God is Love?

by braincleaned in

in context of john 4, the love of god is manifest in that he has sent his only begotten son into the world, that we might live through him.. my questions are:.

where is there any hint of love that would justify the killing of animals for sacrifice, then.

leading to a human sacrifice?.

braincleaned

When I post questions aimed at a particular group, I hope to get a good argument from that group.
I have no idea why Tammy keeps preaching to us.
We are exJWs or JWs looking for help. We don't need the frustrations of personal and unverifiable "revelation".

I'm really getting fed up with this.
I think I need a break from this site.

JESUS CHRIST! I'm trying here... inner voices! Damn! I'm not a doctor, I'm not equipped to deal with schizophrenia!

"... compelled by the Spirit!" WTF???

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1 John 4:8 God is Love?

by braincleaned in

in context of john 4, the love of god is manifest in that he has sent his only begotten son into the world, that we might live through him.. my questions are:.

where is there any hint of love that would justify the killing of animals for sacrifice, then.

leading to a human sacrifice?.

braincleaned

Tec, hello! :)

So which is true? God wants sacrifices... or does not want sacrifices? How can you tell what is the truth about God?

He invented sacrifice. If he did not want sacrifice, he wouldn't sacrificed his son (or himself according to some).
You are mine-quoting my friend — it is ovious to anyone taking the Bible in full context that God invented the horror of sacrifice.

But Christ lay down his life for others

He only did that because his sacrifice had some value.
Come on, lets be honest, how does his death help others to live?
Furthermore the protocol had to do with saving us from the original sin of Adam — that never existed!

There is no 'jehovah'.
That is a prophetic statement of what WILL happen; not what God, Himself, did or even ordered anyone to do.

Um... I can't even begin to dispute such bad faith... Sorry my friend.
You are on a whole other planet by negating what is written in the Bible and inventing your own spin.

All that violence that you are speaking about here? Man did it.

... on the order of God.
If you don't believe that, then you must be answering the wrong thread, as I am clearly disputing the Bible and what is written in context.

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I will be honest with you Tec — your answer upsets and angers me, for you are making a total mockery by throwing in a spin that nobody I know on this site can relate to.
Your 'special' inner information from Christ is an insult to those who seek truth and reason.
I'm sorry — but you are totally off subject.
Keep in your delusions, but please, give us honest seekers a break from this nonesense. You are not a JW, not an ExJW — You are not even debating in the ballpark of this site.
If the subject is not aimed at you, please have the decency to stay quiet.

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1 John 4:8 God is Love?

by braincleaned in

in context of john 4, the love of god is manifest in that he has sent his only begotten son into the world, that we might live through him.. my questions are:.

where is there any hint of love that would justify the killing of animals for sacrifice, then.

leading to a human sacrifice?.

braincleaned

Finkelstein, I love love love Dawkins quote. Pure truth.

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1 John 4:8 God is Love?

by braincleaned in

in context of john 4, the love of god is manifest in that he has sent his only begotten son into the world, that we might live through him.. my questions are:.

where is there any hint of love that would justify the killing of animals for sacrifice, then.

leading to a human sacrifice?.

braincleaned

In context of John 4, the love of God is manifest in that he has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.

My questions are:

• Where is there any hint of Love that would justify the killing of animals for sacrifice, then
leading to a HUMAN sacrifice?

• Explain Exodus 29:18 and the preposterous idea that the aroma of death is pleasing to God?

• Explain how one can rationalize the torture, humiliation, and death of Jesus as a "good thing"
considering that Jehovah is the inventor of this bloody protocol, and he allegedly has the
power to forgive without any of this?

• Having given the idea to humans that sacrifice is a good thing, how could Jehovah violently
kill whole nations who practiced this?
*(more LOVE from Jehovah punishing child sacrifice — what he intended to do himself — by killing
frantically: "The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against
their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
their pregnant women ripped open.” Hosea 13:16.)

Feel free to persuade us that Jehovah is Love.
because to us logical thinkers, God is NOT love.
Not by a longshot… good thing all this is fantasy and tales of folklore written by barbaric ruffians.

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this site sucks! its just a buncha athiest on soap boxes.

by crossquestions6995 in

jw
friends

this site is not a healthy forum for discussion or healing.

its an arena for jaded athiests to bash anything christian or god related.

yes, i know the jw's lied to us about god and the truth.

braincleaned

Fact is, in general, Atheists know more — even their Bibles.
Knowledge is arrogance to the ignorant.

Faith needs not to be challenged with evidence and knowledge.