They say that the injured party should own the joke...I was a victim and I think this is very funny...thanks Francois
morrisamb
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Attention Artists! Great Idea
by Francois in.
maybe you could take this and switch it around to fit the jws?.
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SEXUAL THOUGHTS AT THE MEETINGS
by nightwarrior inthere i was sitting down thinking about nothing then a lump appeared in my trousers,ow no i mouthed no,.
just then i heard in the distance a brother say and now the song number will be ???????
i was in agony, no no i pleaded with myself nice thoughts nice thoughts,i squeezed him but he wouldnot go down, i pinched my hands and still no luck,everyone else was watching me ,as i was the only one sitting with my hands claspedacross my lap,.
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morrisamb
crownboy, I guess some of the sister weren't too appealing in your hall.
Nightwarrier...I'd try to focus on a sister in the hall.
hee hee
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NEW Bill Bowen & J.R. Brown Article!
by UnDisfellowshipped ini have highlighted the parts about bill bowen and j.r. brown in red.. http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2003/01/15/ke011503s349714.htm.
the courier-journal, january 15th 2003:.
bill eases path for child sex-abuse suits .
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morrisamb
Dacke...I don't think your tone was very Christian of you...and what's with the devil figures at the bottom of your post..shame shame.
You'll never hear me say that all pedophile cases are handled the same way by the Witnesses...'cause they are not...but my siblings and I were never told it was a crime from the 70s-early 80s..I had to find that out reading a worldly Ann Landers' letter when I was 17. And yes, I didn't experience the Elders' punishing me for going to the police but god, how many times did I hear, "We didn't know it was against the law."
Especially members of the congregation would say "Why are you using the worldly system for justice?" They weren't to fussy on me doing interviews either.
Being right is the name of my game. I want to see sensitivity for victims and survivors. I want victims to be told what is happening to them is a crime and these are your options. How can people live with themselves knowing children are being sexually abused and not do anything to help them?
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UK TV Presenter Matthew Kelly arrested for abuse
by Simon in.
another one!.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2663189.stm.
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morrisamb
I've never seen Stars In Their Eyes. I live in Canada.
So I did a quick search on Kelly and the show. The 2nd item I looked up a British review forum. Two people wrote the following on April 19/2002. Ominous, eh?
"Mathew Kelly makes my skin crawl. He looks like a dirty old man."
"That Matthew Kelly is a right sook though - I swear you could kick him in the funbags and he'd grin and tell you what a good job you did!"
I saw the Bay City Rollers' manager interviewed on a music bio on the group. He said he did his time and the show itself said it was for sex with a minor.
By the way, I agree Innocent until proven guilty. But sometimes our instinct, past experience, etc..leads us in one or the other direction.
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Road Rage Kills JW; Should Mom Commit Suicide?
by Funchback inquite an interesting (and sad) story.
in my opinion, the victim's mom echoes the thoughts of many a jw, that being this: that jws are the only ones who know how to cope with tragedy.
what she says, in effect, is: "unless one is a jw, they would kill themselves over this.
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morrisamb
I'm with you LyinEyes...I am not religious, I don't have a faith but I don't knock the power of faith to sustain people...whatever the source of that faith...
If I died suddenly, my Witness mother would draw comfort from her beliefs. I will never knock that.
I was such an unhappy Witness yet drew comfort in believing in something. Now I am happy and have no comfort in believing in that kind of something...go figure!
Thanks for your honesty!
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Facial Hair Poll
by LittleToe inthe background to this thread is that i love wearing (?
) a beard, but my wife hates it.
i've changed my profile pic to reflect four states of facial hairiness (if it doesn't show, hit "refresh" on your browser).. i'm interested in your opinions.
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morrisamb
I'm glad! A sign of man secure in his sexuality is a sense of humour about such things...you're wife is lucky... ha ha
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morrisamb
Boy, that was hilarious! And a lot better then the original video the song is taken from!
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I guess this is a good time to say good bye.
by Monster inwell half of you don't know me but all of you helped in one way or another you'll never understand how much.
i wish i had more time to get on personal levels with you all but that's not going to happen now.
i didn't tell my family but, i am kind of worried about the war, something tells me it's not going to be another six day war.
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morrisamb
So sorry I'm coming so late to this thread Monster. As soon as I saw your name and then the topic title, I knew I had to write you. Then I read your kind words and the reason why you're leaving.
You are one hell of a guy...always supportive, kind and thoughtful. Your posts and support has been much appreciated. You are one of the guys I really clicked with on this board.
Take care and God Bless. Hey, if you want an old fashioned letter by snail mail, this friend will write you while you're away...just email [email protected]
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Facial Hair Poll
by LittleToe inthe background to this thread is that i love wearing (?
) a beard, but my wife hates it.
i've changed my profile pic to reflect four states of facial hairiness (if it doesn't show, hit "refresh" on your browser).. i'm interested in your opinions.
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morrisamb
qwerty, I'm not sure if you're being serious or just kidding.
I can assure you, if a guy (or girl) wants to hit on you, a goatee isn't going to stop them...unless they are turned off by goatees!
Goatees aren't a gay thang!
If you do get hit on, I recommend the Nancy Reagon solution: Just say No.
Have a happy day!
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"Their Lives In Their Hands" You think?
by morrisamb inin recent days, i've been thinking a lot about the "you must scream when you're raped" rule...[thanks big tex for the correspondence on this issue].
then i read a column by mindelle jacobs in our london free press (i believe she writes for the edmonton sun) that inspired me to write the following rebuttal...although not jw specific, it might still be of interest to some on this forum.
thanks for reading and any feedback you may care to contribute!
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morrisamb
In recent days, I've been thinking a lot about the "you must scream when you're raped" rule...[thanks Big Tex for the correspondence on this issue]. Then I read a column by Mindelle Jacobs in our London Free Press (I believe she writes for the Edmonton Sun) that inspired me to write the following rebuttal...Although not JW specific, it might still be of interest to some on this forum. Thanks for reading and any feedback you may care to contribute!
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By Donald D'Haene
When I first began reading Their Lives in Their Hands by Mindelle Jacobs (Jan. 14), a shiver ran down the length of my spine and a knot formed in the pit of my stomach.
Nevertheless, I kept an open mind. Jacobs praises The Sexual Assault Network of Edmonton's public awareness campaign to inform women there are options when confronted by a potential rapist.
But by the time I got to this line, "Perhaps rapists will think twice if they think theyll meet fierce resistance", that knot burst into frayed ropes.
It's not that I disagree, "that fighting off would-be rapists is appropriate in some cases". I just don't want to see one more guilt trip laid on women who have been sexually assaulted and are made to feel that not screaming and/or not fighting is labelled do(ing) nothing!
Jacobs accomplishes this in not-so-subtle ways. She praises women who use force to resist rape calling it a "viable alternative". She quotes a male prosecutor who suggested to reporters that victims should "fight back and not submit", adding, "He hit the nail on the head when he pointed out that physical injuries heal a lot faster than the emotional scars."
Tell that to my close friends "Mary" and "Natalie".
"Mary" was a sixteen-year-old virgin who was asked to join her workmate on a double date. Her twenty-something friend promised she would never leave Mary alone. They would go out for dinner and then back to the workmates home for a house party. Later that evening, as soon as the workmate and her boyfriend left Mary and her date alone in the living room to go to an adjoining room, Max made it clear a sexual act was going to take place. Mary screamed for her friends' help. Neither responded. She ran to the phone. Max grabbed the phone and used it to bash Mary on the head. She fought and screamed during the entire rape, but to no avail.
"Natalie" was asked if she needed a ride home from one of her fellow University students. Pulling to the side of the road, Sam pulled out a knife and lay it on the dashboard. No words were spoken. Natalie was raped and although emotionally numb to the experience itself, her survival was foremost on her mind.
Both rapes happened more than twenty years ago.
One fought. One didn't.
Mary screamed. Natalie froze in silence.
Although both women reacted in completely different ways, both share emotional scars, feelings of guilt and shame, and both asked, "Could I have done more?"
Jacob's column was entitled "Their lives in their hands". She thinks?
And Jacobs states, "Demonstrations of female power are well and good. But the psychological mantle of victimhood has diminished such efforts."
I suggest the psychological mantle of victimhood will be helped more by demonstrations of understanding and empathy and less by columns that judge a womans choice to do "nothing" when a perpetrator is doing "something."
Are we still asking, did she stop it, instead of, why did he do it?
This public awareness campaign by Sexual Assault Network of Edmonton is comprised of police, prosecutors, nurses and local sexual assault centres. The group's unfortunate acronym is SANE.
Sometimes I wonder.
Edited by - morrisamb on 14 January 2003 22:7:52