at the pioneer school, we are told to avoid offering people a 'bible study,' but rather to call it a 'discussion' or, better yet, dont tell them anything initially, just start the study before they notice.
mox
Posts by Moxy
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22JWs: An Aversion to ``Conversion?"
by Room 215 inthis is particularly addressed to those of you long-timers.
it seems that the society has always deliberately avoided the use of the word `conversion"" and ``convert(s)'' in its literature.
yet it's clearly a scriptural term and would seem to fit their aggressive prosyletizing mentality quite well.. any ideas what it is that they find objectionable?
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Hello
by discombobulatedgirl inhi im a teen and i saw the word teen in the tital of this little posting room so i though who better to start than a "teen" so wanna tak 'bout somehing well post it i ll answer awasy do.
see ya .
dc
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Moxy
see, now i dont know *why* newbies complain about feeling unwanted in here, or not getting responses to their questions. SEE?? we got back to her within the YEAR! dc girl? hello? u still here?
mox
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THE END is no longer...
by Martini in...at the tip of my tongue!.
question:.
i know we are not into end time dates anymore.however suppose you are in your.
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Moxy
whoa. time warp. im reading this thread thinking... what the hells going on here? did i stumble into a workhole? then realization dawned...
mox
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New Watchtower CD?
by Xander ini'm going to post another thread on this since my last attempt to hijack a thread was utterly in vain.. does anyone have the latest watchtower library cd?
i *think* the year was '99 or '01, but i'm not 100% on that.. if so, would it be possible to put an iso of it on the web somewhere?
(or, if not, at least host it on your computer for a bit such that i could pick it up via icq or gnutella or something?).
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Moxy
While this is a murky area and few fair use advisories will ever suggest that copying an entire work is appropriate, I was chiefly pointing out the contrast between Ray's books, which are made available at a market price to anyone who wishes to buy them, as opposed to the Watchtower CD, which is not available to Xander at any price.
i spose in that context only, its a fair opinion, as long as you keep in mind that impact on the market is only ONE of the four fair use factors (albeit the most important.) i dont see how the publisher denying access to some group can have any impact at all on fair use. if you have some precedent, or a description in the copyright laws of this clause or even a proposal or anything at all that indicates this is a factor, id love to see it. in the meantime, i would stick to the established definition and examples of 'fair use.'
mox
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New Watchtower CD?
by Xander ini'm going to post another thread on this since my last attempt to hijack a thread was utterly in vain.. does anyone have the latest watchtower library cd?
i *think* the year was '99 or '01, but i'm not 100% on that.. if so, would it be possible to put an iso of it on the web somewhere?
(or, if not, at least host it on your computer for a bit such that i could pick it up via icq or gnutella or something?).
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Moxy
bodhi - your understanding of 'fair use' is pathetic. i'm the last person to agree with the arguments of the copyright lawmakers, but if you want to fight them, you should at least be able to discuss them intelligently.
start here: http://fairuse.stanford.edu/
mox
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Bible Error: The Visit to the Tomb
by JosephAlward inthe following two accounts of the morning visit by the women to anoint jesus body are contradictory.
according to mark, the women wondered how they would remove the stone covering the tomb, but they found that it had already been rolled away.
matthew, however, says that when the women went to the tomb, there was an earthquake, and an angel came down from heaven, went to the tomb, and rolled the stone back.
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Moxy
speechless: did you just christ is as likely to be real as the easter bunny? whose argument are you making again?? youve totally lost me.
mox
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When "All" doesn't mean All
by ozziepost inthe march 15 issue of the watchtower carries a study article with the theme text; "look!
i am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.
" (matthew 28:20).
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Moxy
CART MASTER
Bring out your dead! [clang]
Bring out your dead!
CUSTOMER
Here's one.
CART MASTER
Ninepence.
DEAD PERSON
I'm not dead!
CART MASTER
What?
CUSTOMER
Nothing. Here's your ninepence.
DEAD PERSON
I'm not dead!
CART MASTER
'Ere. He says he's not dead!
CUSTOMER
Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON
I'm not!
CART MASTER
He isn't?
CUSTOMER
Well, he will be soon. He's very ill.
DEAD PERSON
I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER
No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.
CART MASTER
Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
DEAD PERSON
I don't want to go on the cart!
CUSTOMER
Oh, don't be such a baby.
CART MASTER
I can't take him.
DEAD PERSON
I feel fine!
CUSTOMER
Well, do us a favour.
CART MASTER
I can't.
CUSTOMER
Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
CART MASTER
No, I've got to go to the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
CUSTOMER
Well, when's your next round?
CART MASTER
Thursday.
DEAD PERSON
I think I'll go for a walk.
CUSTOMER
You're not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn't there something you can do?
DEAD PERSON [singing]
I feel happy. I feel happy.
[CART MASTER knocks him over the head.]
CUSTOMER
Ah, thanks very much.
CART MASTER
Not at all. See you on Thursday.mox
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To Alan F and others
by badboy inalan f,.
it is interesting what you said on my previous post about neanderthal man, because the creationists don't seem to agree on a lot of things.. e.g some say neanderthals were pre-flood human,other say they suffered from ricketts/syphilis, others that they were apes!.
the creationists website say all kind of strange things such as the .
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Moxy
before WOL closed down, there was a guy in the science forum that had this brand-new theory that he was really proud of. he had to check with the elders before he could reveal the details tho to make sure it wasnt contrary to anything the society taught. so he finally lays out his theory: neanderthal=nephilim. he had it all figured out. pre-flood, larger and stronger than humans, died out. (he appeared to have confused 'robust' with 'large and strong'.) to their credit, a lot of the regular posters told him this was pretty unlikely, but i dont really see any intelligent interpretation put forward by JWs as to *what* neanderthal was. has anyone seen anything more than the WTs statement, that they were a 'race of humans that died out,' whatever that means.
mox
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Islam defined by the Truth
by chauncey inhello to all that reply.
i'm looking for someone who use to be a devout muslim that.
has now become one of jehovah's witnesses!.
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Moxy
there are, not surprisingly, very few. of the ones i know, the common denominator seems to be oppression. (see also the thread on a recent religious study showing proportionally more blacks and women JWs than any other religions: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=21125) for example, women muslims who now live in a western country, or younger muslims disillusioned by the totalitarian government whove fled to western countries.
mox
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Latest KM Stats
by metatron inin november they got 966,528 pubs and 90,542 pioneers.. so, their exploitation of the wtc tragedy and 15 minute.
publisher policy has worked very well for them.. in december they got 968,126 publishers and 89,808 pioneers.
again, a big success in exploitation and 'paper' publishers.. i note that the pioneers dropped by 734 however.. maybe some more mass death will help.. metatron
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Moxy
baptisms for individual months should not be compared year-to-year since they are dependant on assembly schedules. only the entire year (or the entire summer) should be used.
mox