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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  mankkeli

  Shamus100 - Which doctor can vouch 100% for your survival if you take blood?, If they cant confidently vouch for the success of the surgery, then it is all about trial and error
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  mankkeli

  cantleave - You know it yourself, go back to your former congregation and enquire if their had been any divorce since you left and compare this with the rate of divorce among your colleagues at work
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  mankkeli

  Found sheep - Well said, I 'm empowering lurkers to use their senses not those who are already gone.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  mankkeli

  OUTLAW - What is the credibility of that survey?, I cant vouch for a survey that reflect a figure of "1" for JWs living together without marriage. Look it up and ask yourself if that is a typical lifestyle of the JWs.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  mankkeli

  shamus100 - Changes in doctrine is not a big deal, Ask yourself, Has the overlapping flip flops killed anyone?. It doesnt kill anybody, It makes you stronger, monotony is boring
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  mankkeli

  yourmomma - Staying in wont hurt anyone, as far as you keep your senses
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  mankkeli

  undercover - If anyone come to that realization that the borg is not God's channel, they should be helped to see things differently rather than give them an hideous alternative.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  mankkeli

  Shamus100 - We are all under some form of control at one point or the other in our lives, even here on JWN we have rules and regulations that must not be breached to keep normalcy, the reason is not to make discussions difficult for us but to put things in proper control
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  mankkeli

  cantleave - Thats not what I mean, lurkers must consider their step thoughtfully before taking it. We all know that the rate of divorce is way much higher outside than in the borg.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  mankkeli

  In the previous thread of this series, I called lurker ’s attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the JW religion. I mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations I made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out. That thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions. The majority of those who commented related many beautiful ways their lives have turned out after leaving but they refused to mention how rough and tough the journey to that destination was., Here in Northern Europe, we have received reports of many ex-Jws who terminated their lives because of the difficulty of coping in the outside world., these reports are becoming numerous lately and I wouldnt want anyone to walk down that hideous path because of an aggresive need for ”freedom”. I repeat again, of what value is that freedom if it comes along with loneliness, depression, sleepness night and many horrible circumstances?. Please tell me what is the big deal about that freedom?. You may think there is light at the end of the tunnel, but you may not even survive the journey to see that light.

  Unfortunately for most of these victims, their therapist had little or no knowledge about what really goes in the JW religion, so the assistance they offered didnt prove very helpful, they were completely handicapped in helping the matter, they couldnt comprehend what such terms as armaggedon, inactive publishers and many more mean, so their help was not so practical.

  It seemed I was under attack from the majority of those who commented on the thread but the reality was different. while the discussion goes on, I received seven PMs. Six of those members who sent them mentioned that I had brought some balance to discussions on JWN, they conveyed wholehearted appreciation for my insight but only one member lashed out on me as bringing chaos to the discussion board.Whatever view any individual may claim to present, the reality is that leaving the organization is not a suggestion that should be offered to anyone who has become dissapointed or disillusioned one way or the other.

  Even the apostate magnate, Raymond Franz didnt leave the religion when He was displaced from Brooklyn. He quietly moved to Alabama and still continue to associate there, He fought tooth and nail to save himself from the deluge but the scheme to oust him was being planned from the top. Did Ray disassociate himself?, Was He pleased with the way the judicial committe handled his matter?, No. He wasnt, He wanted to hang on by all means. So, If this guru fought this hurdle why should you think you can simply enter the battle?. Cynthia his wife did not disassociate herself, she is still regarded as inactive on the service committee's publisher record card.

  Ask yourself, What kind of Life do reknowned atheist like Richard dawkins led?, read up on his personal life on wikipedia, He couldnt even keep a marriage responsibly.What about Stephen Hassan ?(The messiah for ex-JWs), how is his personal life, have you researched it?. Were they examplary figures to follow?, does it really worth throwing away what you currently have, you should know where you will be heading if you read their books and view them as some kind of legend. Please, dont make rash decisions, examine the destination of the journey before you embark on it?.

  I will be back with Part 3 of this series