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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

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  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  OODAD- My goal is not to argue or fuel contention, my pure motive is to keep lurkers away from information intended to undermine the credibility of the borg. Most of them have been JW loyal adherents for decades, the scheme and technique that has kept them in up till this moment will surely keep them going. Millions have remained JW till death, many could hardly recount any moment of regret, they wouldnt have even wished to have traded those moment with anything else. If they can do it, we can encourage others to follow suit.

  Lurkers based on the thousands of posts I have read here, go and sort out your problems with your cngregation elders and dont expose yourself to disheartening disaster.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

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  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  00DAD - My goal is not to argue or fuel contention, my pure motive is to keep lurkers away from information intended to undermine the credibility of the borg. Most of them have been JW loyal adherents for decades, the scheme and technique that has kept them in up till this moment will surely keep them going. Millions have remained JW till death, many could hardly recount any moment of regret, they wouldnt have even wished to have traded those moment with anything else. If they can do it, we can encourage others to follow suit.

  Lurkers based on the thousands of posts I have read here, go and sort out your problems with your cngregation elders and dont expose yourself to disheartening disaster.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  thetrueone - I get your point, but dont lets deceive people with the intention that happy times are ahead once you are out of the borg. From a selfish point of view it appears that the control tactics the borg uses comes along with too many restrictions, but in the long run, it is just the most appropriate measure needed to coordinate decent living and inject sanity into an ever degrading human lifestyle.

  You need to remember that in this world, we are not really "free" , even the so-called "freedom of speech" has its own borderline. We are all captive of one thing or the other at every point in time in our lifetime.

  My message can be consummated with a proverb that goes this way "The devil we know is better than the God we don't know". That being said, Instead of dragging people out of the borg with our version of twisted speeches and masterful misrepresentation of reality, rather, lets encourage them to make peace and get-by with the reality they are familiar with by enhancing their motivation to keep their senses while serving Jehovah with their fellow brothers.
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  Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

  for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

  what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

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  sizemik - I get your point, but dont lets deceive people with the intention that happy times are ahead once you are out of the borg. From a selfish point of view it appears that the control tactics the borg uses comes along with too many restrictions, but in the long run, it is just the most appropriate measure needed to coordinate decent living and inject sanity into an ever degrading human lifestyle.

  You need to remember that in this world, we are not really "free" , even the so-called "freedom of speech" has its own borderline. We are all captive of one thing or the other at every point in time in our lifetime.

  My message can be consummated with a proverb that goes this way "The devil we know is better than the God we don't know". That being said, Instead of dragging people out of the borg with our version of twisted speeches and masterful misrepresentation of reality, rather, lets encourage them to make peace and get-by with the reality they are familiar with by enhancing their motivation to keep their senses while serving Jehovah with their fellow brothers.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  OUTLAW - You have the privilege to say all you have to say here, this place is your domain, it is your kingdom and your paradise, keep ranting, now i see why the shunning policy should really be applied to people like you. You are not worth responding to.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  OUTLAW - This is part of the reason why the majority of you guys cant be trusted, a rumour was just hinted and it became a big issue to follow up on. Which other account do I maintain?, mockers please respond, I am waiting to see. lurkers can you now see the works of their hands?
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  Part 3 to 9 of this series is underway, the following issues will be discussed in those series

  * Can lurkers trust all the information on this forum?

  * What is the credibility of all the materials that are confidently recommended to those having doubts, Crisis of conscience, Captives of Concept, Insearch of christain freedom, combatting cult mind control and releasing the bonds. Indepth analysis of the materials are currently going on. Series 4 to 8 will dig deep into a review of those books.

  * A documentary of how a JW became apostate and subsequent events that ensued. How it started, how judicial committe was formed, his committe hearing session, how he joined JWN, How the shunning policy was implemented, How he met up in apostafest and how his life gradually turned out.

  and many more, watch out.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  foundSheep - Who gave you the audacity to suggest a ban on me?. Are you alright?
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  OUTLAW - You have the audacity to call me an idiot because you are an imbecile and your folly is clearly evident. If you use vulgar words on me, I will lash out you in return, Stupid thing.
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  Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.

  i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.

  that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.

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  outsmartthesystem - There is no change that go down well with everyone, majority are happy with the changes but few are not and this happen in everyday situation of life, not everyone concur with even the normal way of doing things. Some complained and many may not. Many JWs see doctrinal changes as an evidence of divine intervention in the borg. It reinforces their conviction that Jesus is truly in full control and it keeps them in. So, doctrinal change is not an issue to count on as evidence for quitting.