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PenelopePaige
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Making peace with death
by mankkeli inhave you come to grips with the reality of dieing and ending it all, for many it was an unfathomable reality especially with the idea that many now living will never die.. but have you made peace with death?, have you resolved in your mind that death is not a painful reality and it is unfair to cheat it..
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Making peace with death
by mankkeli inhave you come to grips with the reality of dieing and ending it all, for many it was an unfathomable reality especially with the idea that many now living will never die.. but have you made peace with death?, have you resolved in your mind that death is not a painful reality and it is unfair to cheat it..
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PenelopePaige
I just remind myself of what I learned in school. "Energy never dies, it only changes forms."
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Does mankind need religon to have morality?
by highdose inan arguement i've encountered recently is: god tells us right from wrong.
if you don't have a reason to do right instead of wrong then no one will have any morals.. i disagree with this entirely of course.
what kind of morality is it when you are only doing what is right out of fear of being punished for doing what is wrong?.
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PenelopePaige
No, but it sometimes helps. How many times do you do something you wouldn't otherwise because, "It's the Christian thing to do." ?
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I just ordered a Lot of Vintage Awake and Watchtower magazines....
by PenelopePaige ini received them a few days ago.
there are 50 magazines from the 70s through the 90's.
i've only been able to glance through and read a few articles but this is what struck me so far; .
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PenelopePaige
BluesBrother- Yes, Coffee makes more sense than Tobacco! Don't know why I had in my head Tobacco field- but that's the article I read :)
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I just ordered a Lot of Vintage Awake and Watchtower magazines....
by PenelopePaige ini received them a few days ago.
there are 50 magazines from the 70s through the 90's.
i've only been able to glance through and read a few articles but this is what struck me so far; .
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PenelopePaige
I received them a few days ago. There are 50 magazines from the 70s through the 90's. I've only been able to glance through and read a few articles but this is what struck me so far;
1. An article on Pioneering where they say that an older gentleman went to the elders to let them know he would have to stop pioneering because he, "Had bills to pay!" - tells how they asked him specifically what it was he needed. He explained that he needed new eyeglasses but could not afford them. They reasoned with him that he could spend a day working in the tobacco field, make the $20 to pay for glasses and go right back to Pioneering! Which he did. Goes on to say that he continued to pioneer until he died. ! WTF??
2. An article about an old woman, written by her, telling how she is annointed and will be ruling in Heaven with Christ. She tells her life story and goes on to talk about her fellow JW's who are looking forward to Paradise Earth, but not her, as she will be ruling with Jesus. I just read this thinking , "Oh my God, this woman is mentally ill and they've given her a platform!"
Other than that, I haven't read much. I did read a very good article in the Watchtower on why you should love your neighbor and one about T.V. "The Box that ruined the world" or something like that, that was a fantastic article and gave some very good points.
I can't wait to read through them more, should be interesting. I think the magazines do have some great articles and make great points save for the few WTF scatterings here and there......
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i could never understand what was "good " about the "good news "
by looloo inas someone recruited in my 20s and spent about 6 years "interested " though never baptised , i just felt depressed after the lovebombing i received at first , i felt trapped by knowing "the truth" and wished i hadnt heard about it .
i couldnt understand what was good news about billions of innocents dying including poor children who have suffered enough in countries where there is famine etc... and all my relatives were doomed along with them !
i was a much happier person before i met jws believing you go to heaven after your death and live with god jesus and your loved ones .
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PenelopePaige
I only studied with them a little while, about 8 months, and even though I felt , and still sometimes do feel, that they are "the truth", a paradise earth sounds very depressing to me. I don't want to live with lions and tigers and bears and Ned Flanders, I would prefer to go to Heaven! I much prefer the idea of the near death "Heaven" experiences I have read about from Christians, besides this Paradise earth business. I know it shouldn't depress me but it does. I'll never forget when my JW friend who I was studying with told me about Paradise earth and then looked at me wide-eyed and said, "Doesn't that sound wonderful!?" and I felt like crying. :(
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My Apostate wife is out on service
by fade_away inas i write this, my wife who left the borg along with me is out on service with an old jw friend.
her friend is visiting town and she didn't know we stopped going to the meetings when she called my wife and asked her out on a door to door service.
my wife explained to her our current situation, but still decided to go out with her just this one time.
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PenelopePaige
Thanks for the info on the book! I'm going to look for it now.........
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My Apostate wife is out on service
by fade_away inas i write this, my wife who left the borg along with me is out on service with an old jw friend.
her friend is visiting town and she didn't know we stopped going to the meetings when she called my wife and asked her out on a door to door service.
my wife explained to her our current situation, but still decided to go out with her just this one time.
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PenelopePaige
Reminds me of a book written about a mother who went undercover, got herself reinstated, with the purpose to be able to talk to her grown daughter again, and went to meetings and in service with her daughter. Now she could talk with her daughter and carefully and gently say things to help her daughter to question and think,,took over a year about I think.. I've loaned out that book recently. Guess I'll read it again. Amazing that that mother could do it and a demonstration of very much love for her daughter.
Hey, What's the name of this book? I'd like to order it! Also, a good read is "I was a Teenage Jehovah's Witness" by Nate Merritt. Fantastic book!
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Went to the DC today...
by dontplaceliterature ini caught the entire session today, and strangely, it was the first time i was able to stay completely alert for an entire dc program.
i'm guessing the reason for that is that i was looking at the program with a critical eye for the first time in my life and was not being hypnotised by mind-numbing repitition (see steve hassen's combatting cult mind control).
the program wasn't that bad.
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PenelopePaige
BULLSHIT. Demons are a figment of the imagination
I understand that if you've never dealt with demons or the supernatural that you would not believe, but their are demons! I know me saying so, makes me sound like a nut, but THEIR ARE DEMONS. They are a very real thing!
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My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
by rebel8 inhave you watched this show?
as an ex-cultist i find it interesting.
i had never heard of these groups, so i have no idea if the show is accurate.. .
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PenelopePaige
I love this show. It is like watching a train wreck! I, too, am disturbed though, by the young girls and the way they dress, do their make-up and dance. Very shocking.