Excellent viewpoints. They are tolerant of some really pathetic stuff.
Posts by MrMoe
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4JW Are Very Very Tolerant!!!
by D wiltshire injw are very very tolerant!!!.
i think most jw are very tolerant, for instance look at how tolerant they are of members who are child molesters, as long as they are loyal to the organization and dont have 2 witnesses to their crime, they are allowed to hold positions of trust (elder, ms, pioneer, ...).
a congregation in san diego, that i once was an elder in, after i left made a convicted child molester, who served prison time, a ministerial servant.. this toleration is exclusive though, to members and not that great for nonmembers, for let a clergyman or member of another religion be accused of child molestation, and to them its proof they are not being used by god, and are hypocrites.
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Wonderful news! Thank you all!!
by freeman ini want to thank so many of you for giving me the ammunition i needed to initiate actions that i hope will save at least one of my two children from the cult of the wtbts.
i have been able to undertake some positive actions in no small measure because of all you people here.
some of you may recall from earlier posts that two of my boys friends were dis-fellowed and that i went ballistic when my kids told me they were not allowed to talk to their best friends because the society says we cant.
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MrMoe
GREAT experience. How old is your son? Age isn't always everything - I understood a lot at a very young age and I am sure he would understand. It does take time. Even when I was 10, I had doubts. Including, why would God kill people at Armageddon just because they were not JW's, including innocent babies?
Another point on DFing -- Jesus said if you believe in him and have love for your God and fellow man - than you will enter into his paradise. Jesus ate with sinners, but the elders will DF you if you eat with sinners - totally un-scriptural. People were stoned before - are we going to do that, too? NO - why - because the bible changed it's rules after Jesus died. I almost wonder if the JW's would stone people if they could get away with it. The bible (Timothy wrote this) says women are not supposed to cut their hair - does that mean all JW women have long hair? NO! Lot's daughters had sex with their dad and they both got pregnant by him - where they punished? NO!
Please visit www.freeminds.org. It has lots of literature reviewing other false doctrines. A book I enjoyed other than COC has all their false dates and "new "light" old light things and so on showing how much the WT has changed over the years. Pull out the 1968 Awake and show that the WT did say in 1975. There are so many in discrepancies with their doctrines that are in direct conflict with what the bible says. The whole 1914 crap was based on the SDA and the Pyramid of Giza - a form of divination.
I would not focus as much on the blood issue as much as other points. The bible strictly forbids eating blood and to try to prove this point to a devout JW may become very difficult. To be honest, maybe it is more of a gray area type scenario - a conscience matter just like Paul had with meat sacrificed to idols - he ate it but didn't want to go blabbing to everybody that he did. Who knows. Keep up the good work - you are making wonderful headway!!
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need help please!
by uncle_onion ini have a friend that got dsfd last month.she has a sister that is being woken up in the middle of the night and can feel something on top of her chest.
she is convinced that it is a demonic attack.interstingly their mother said it is because she has accepted literature from the dsf sister!.
well i have explained to her that it is a medical condition.
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MrMoe
Maybe it's asthma - I have asthma and have had that my whole life.
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Test of the Week: Are you a sex god(dess)?
by JanH ini'm amazed if nobody suggested we do the are you a sex god/goddess?
test before.
look at http://www.emode.com/emode/tests/god_switch.jsp ,do the test, and try to be honest .
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MrMoe
Hubba Hubba Slayer! Your gf is one lucky gal!
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Test of the Week: Are you a sex god(dess)?
by JanH ini'm amazed if nobody suggested we do the are you a sex god/goddess?
test before.
look at http://www.emode.com/emode/tests/god_switch.jsp ,do the test, and try to be honest .
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MrMoe
A brilliant bolt of lightning descends! SHAZAAM! The oracle has spoken!
The smoke clears to reveal that inside you is a divine being,
VENUS, the Goddess of Love and Beauty.
Let's just say that you are a deity with quite a fan club. Popular and pretty, you fill men with desire. Taking pride in your appearance, you have a very feminine way about you. Although you have perfected the art of innocent flirting, beneath that naive exterior lies a woman ready to hit the sheets and get busy. And once you're in the bedroom, your divine instincts take over. Smooth as silk in sexual situations, you know how to make your lovers melt. And you awe men with your sexual confidence and skilled performance. You are a diva of delight. Suddenly, like a light from the heavens, your partner discovers your true inner nature. Behold, the skies proclaim, here lies a goddess!
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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER
by You Know inperhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
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MrMoe
You Know - BLAH BLAH BLAH -
Godly destruction, death, wicked bodies strewn on streets, birds picking at flesh, doom & gloom - BLAH BLAH BLAH.
LET THIS THREAD DIE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!
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Call for Holy War Renewed-Al-Qaida
by MrMoe insource - compuserve news.
call for holy war renewed.
by nadia abou el-magd cairo, egypt (ap) - osama bin laden's spokesman issued a strident, televised appeal tuesday, for muslims around the world to rise in a global holy war against the united states and its interests everywhere.. al-qaida spokesman sulaiman abu ghaith praised the hijackers who flew planes into the world trade center and pentagon for their ``good deed,'' saying they had ``moved the battle into the heart of america.''.
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MrMoe
Source - Compuserve News
Call for Holy War Renewed
By NADIA ABOU EL-MAGD CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Osama bin Laden's spokesman issued a strident, televised appeal Tuesday, for Muslims around the world to rise in a global holy war against the United States and its interests everywhere.
Al-Qaida spokesman Sulaiman Abu Ghaith praised the hijackers who flew planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon for their ``good deed,'' saying they had ``moved the battle into the heart of America.''
``The Americans must know that the storm of airplanes will not stop, God willing, and there are thousands of young people who are as keen about death as Americans are about life,'' Abu Ghaith said.
The fierce warning - and appeal for help from fellow Muslims - came on the third day of U.S. and British strikes on al-Qaida posts in Afghanistan, and upon installations of Afghanistan's Taliban regime.
Defiant in the face of the attacks, the statement nevertheless made clear the pressure bin Laden's network felt itself under - taking the unusual step at one point of specifically urging Muslim women, as well as men, to join in fighting the United States.
``I direct this message to the entire Islamic nation, and I say to them that all sides today have come together against the nation of Islam and the Muslims,'' Abu Ghaith said.
``This is the crusade that Bush has promised us, coming toward Afghanistan against the Islamic nation and the Afghan people. We are living under this bombardment from the crusade, which is also targeting all Islamic peoples.''
``America has opened a door that, God willing, will not be closed,'' the spokesman said.
Before the attacks on Afghanistan began, Bush had called his war on terrorism a crusade, but a day later the White House apologized for using the loaded term which recalls the Christians' medieval wars against Muslims in the Holy Land.
The message from Abu Ghaith, delivered in Arabic, was the second statement from al-Qaida since the launch of U.S.-led airstrikes against Afghanistan on Sunday. Bin Laden issued a videotaped message that same day, though it appeared to have been recorded before the attacks began.
``The American interests are everywhere all over the world. Every Muslim has to play his real and true role to uphold his religion and his nation in fighting, and jihad is a duty,'' he said.
If Muslims do not take up their duty, ``it will be shameful,'' he said. ``This battle is a decisive battle between atheism and faith.''
Echoing bin Laden's earlier message, Abu Ghaith sought to link the terror attacks against America to U.S. Middle East policy.
``America must know that the battle will not leave its land until America leaves our land; until it stops supporting Israel; until it stops the blockade against Iraq.''
An editorial staffer at Al-Jazeera's headquarters in Qatar, Ibrahim Hilal, said the channel received the tape at its bureau in Kabul, the Afghan capital, Tuesday. Al-Jazeera did not say when the videotape was recorded. The station also broadcast bin Laden's statement Sunday.
There was no explanation for why the spokesman, rather than bin Laden, appeared in Tuesday's tape. Taliban authorities have said that bin Laden has survived the U.S. strikes.
``The Americans must know that by invading the land of Afghanistan they have opened a new page of enmity and struggle between us and the forces of the unbelievers,'' Abu Ghaith said. ``We will fight them with the material and the spiritual strength that we have, and our faith in God. We shall be victorious.''
Abu Ghaith wore a white turban, similar to that worn by Osama bin Laden, the chief suspect in the Sept. 11 attacks. He was dressed in white robes and stood against a dark brown background.10/09/01 21:04
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More Anthrax THREAT- nearby town AGAIN!!!
by MrMoe innearby sister town hit again - my local again!!!!!!.
http://www.news-press.com/news/today/011009anthraxscare.html.
collier buildings evacuated; closed for day .
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MrMoe
Thanks girls
I think Florida is quite the melting pot for the strange and wierd - including lots of nutcases. Florida is SUCH a hot spot for trouble. I think I will take Stiffy's advice and move to Montana.
Yes- I am nervous - I was fine until all this woha happened to my boss. Sorta scarry you know? Can't live under a table or rock though - gotta move on.
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Family About to Disown Me
by Moridin inwell i finally got the guts to tell my mother that i had enlisted in the army.
she didn't say a whole lot to me, but she did tell my sister she was calling the elders and that when i was df'd she would have nothing to do with me.
i can't say that it suprises me too much, but i was hoping for more of an adult reaction.
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MrMoe
Be proud of yourself - you made a tremendous step for yourself and your country. And remember - your family may disown you, but you should never disown them. Write letters and stay in touch - hopefully someday what you say or how you act will show them whta the JW's really are.
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More Anthrax THREAT- nearby town AGAIN!!!
by MrMoe innearby sister town hit again - my local again!!!!!!.
http://www.news-press.com/news/today/011009anthraxscare.html.
collier buildings evacuated; closed for day .
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MrMoe
Budda Belly- Har Har - it's a real newspaper. It belongs to Gannet - the largest newspaper company in the World and the paper serves 3 local counties - Lee, Collier and Charlotte. I bet you think you are so witty. What is your point in even being here? What's your problem? Why don't you leave me alone.
Kent - You are right - how far is religion allowed to go anyhow? JW's loose thier lives from blood issues and have in the past relating to organ transplants and vaccines (before the "new light") so where will they draw the line?