a f/b friend just posted this link .
which makes some interesting claims .
so i thought i'd share.. some here at jwn have an extensive knowledge of early christianity .
In the 1940's, some gnostic scrolls were found in Egypt. They are dated from around A.D. 350-400. Irenaeus, the orthodox Bishop of Lyons, refers to other gospels written by heretics. Irenaeus wrote his work around A.D. 180. He could not have refered to 'other' gospels if there were no original gospels existing at that time.
Check out: gnosis.org for more info. It is very interesting.
i think it's a given that most of us who have left, have had dreams about still being jw's or doing jw related things, even years after we left.
i had one of those last night.
it involved getting a hotel for the next district convention and then it skipped ahead to when i was attending.
Why not, you could have traveling Surfing-seers, a new beach every week! Everyone could have their special Saturday morning swimming suits, no ties or pantyhose. Instead of coffee breaks, you could have barbeque breaks
today as i was researching past and present members of the governoring body of j.w.
's something stood out to me that seemed out of proportion towards other name origins.. the vast majority appeared to be from the germanic peoples.
either they were originally from germany themself or their parents immigrated from germany.. here are some of the ones i researched and you should be able to spot just from their names a hint of their origins:.
It's that German Engineering! or should I say, German Pioneering!
i think it's a given that most of us who have left, have had dreams about still being jw's or doing jw related things, even years after we left.
i had one of those last night.
it involved getting a hotel for the next district convention and then it skipped ahead to when i was attending.
ekruks-Maybe you should write it down and market it, like a modern day Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. You could say you found it under a maple tree in Minnesota. Just think you could start your own religion, complete with making those women you dream about doing whatever you want through mind-control techniques. Lots of people could throw money at your feet and build you a house on the beach somewhere. The house could be called Beth-Surfers, built to await the resurrection of the next great wave....
i think it's a given that most of us who have left, have had dreams about still being jw's or doing jw related things, even years after we left.
i had one of those last night.
it involved getting a hotel for the next district convention and then it skipped ahead to when i was attending.
I usually have dreams of armegeddon and dying and not being resurrected, my family is all around saying how much they wish I had made it into the Paradise.
Creeps me out.
top 16 ways to get a wife, according to the bible.
1) find an attractive prisoner of war, bring her home, shave her head, trim her nails, and give her new clothes.
then shes yours.
I've been depressed today, but this thread made me laugh! Thanks everyone!
CJ
millions of children have grown up as jehovahs witnesses.
lets start from the very beginning.. i owe my life to jehovahs witnesses.
more important than what he was saying was who he was.
Wow! Great story, SST. Welcome!
CJ
i don't think there are more pedophiles in the religion than there are in others.. i understand that one is too many.
but i think some believe that it's an epidemic within the organization.
i believe their 2 witness rule can help pedophiles secretly abuse kids.. but i don't think that this particular crime dominates those in the religion.. .
Once upon a time, I was asked by a relative what they should do: Their bible study was coming to the KH, and there was a convicted pedophile there. After consulting with the elders, they told the relative they COULD NOT tell the bible study about the pedo, it was slander. What to do, what to do?
I told the relative to go to the local newspaper, get a copy of the arrest article, and hand it to the study. Public information, no slander.
This is exactly what the relative did. That way the bible study was in the know.
By the way, this congregation had 3 pedos I knew of, two were convicted felons after being discovered. The other was kept safe by his wife, while his step daughter was DF'd for immorality at a later time. Oh Yeah, he claimed to be annointed!!!
CJ
if jehovah created the universe, knows it all, et cetera, and then he has a direct line to the governing body, how come you're always told to "wait on jehovah"?
can a simple earthling be faster in his or her reasoning than yhwh?
can s/he notice something jehovah will miss?.
I've never understood the waiting thing. 2000 years ago told to preach the end was nigh, and here we all are still.
CJ
i gave him are really good thriller book to read today.
he got half way through it, was really into it, when i couldn't help myself.
i asked him, in light of this past sunday's watchtower, how can you read this book in good conscience.
mouthy-'Granny'-thanks a bunch, everything is all right. See comment below.
SixofNine-I never have to ask for oral, he revels in it. Sometimes too much!
RagingBull-I'll have to check out Zane.
CJ
