Billy-What interesting experiences you share here. This is great, that you, 'the sinner', were willing to not be 'protected' and shared you story with everyone. This must have killed them, to lose the power over you, to have the star chamber exposed willingly. Love it!!
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exJW Psychology 103--Let's Reconsider "Confidentiality"
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inover the course of decades as a jw, an elder, a bethelite, then learning ttatt and wanting to leave, i'd collected a lot of insight into the power of "confidentiality.
" although the confidentiality in a judicial hearing is supposedly to protect the sinner, in actuality, i saw that it was about control and was protecting the power of the jc.. i didn't use any of this knowledge until i was called before the boe because the other elders figured they had grounds to remove me as an elder.
it was a work situation that only lasted a matter of hours, but it was enough that they seized the moment.
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I just informed the parents about me and the TTATT... heart wrenching
by sosoconfused inwell first i want to thank everyone here for the good points etc... i have received over the last few months.
you guys have really been helpful!.
so the other day my mother wrote me a 3 page letter telling me how she was so scared for me because she could tell my love for the truth was gone etc.. so i decided i wanted to totally rip the band-aid off and get this matter over and done with.
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PaintedToeNail
soso-You are really, truly brave. Your poor mother, insisting on being completely mislead. I'm glad your father was more reasonable and willing to accept your beliefs without rocking the boat...my mom would react ths exact same way that yours has...
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exJW Psychology 102--How to Ask a Question When Questions Aren't Allowed
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite innow that enough time has passed and i've moved away, i think i'm overdue to share some of the stories from my fade.
i've mentioned some of this before, but i think it deserves its own thread.. we all would like to be able to freely ask questions about jw beliefs and get our family and friends to really think about certain questions.
however, when you're a baptized jw, you really can't ask any good questions or you'll get the "apostate" label slapped on you!
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PaintedToeNail
Brilliant! I can just see this method used on a part at the Ministry School, two sisters, sitting at a tacky table, one asking the question-"Why can't we join the YMCA?"
The other sister answering, "Let me see, I came across this NGO application from the WTBTS to the UN, what is their reasoning on this matter".
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Jehovahs Witnesses couple accused of neglecting child by feeding only fruits, vegetables and juices
by Sol Reform inhttp://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/jehovahs-witnesses-couple-from-jupiter-accused-of-/nyhx3/.
posted: 2:50 p.m. tuesday, june 11, 2013. jehovah's witnesses couple accused of neglecting child by feeding only fruits, vegetables and juicescomment(31) 21 191 22 477relatedview larger louis, claudelview larger louis, vanessaby alexandra seltzerpalm beach post staff writer.
a suburban jupiter couple is in the county jail today after they refused to give their 19-month-old boy the nutrients he needed, causing him to end up in a local hospital's intensive care unit.claudel and vanessa louis face charges of neglect of a child with great bodily harm.palm beach county sheriff's deputies were called to st. mary's medical center in west palm beach on june 5 to investigate the child neglect case.. the 19-month-old boy was admitted to the hospital may 24 after he had trouble breathing.the boy's doctor told the investigating deputy that the boy was severely malnourished, underdeveloped and was in respiratory distress, according to a sheriff's probable-cause affidavit.
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PaintedToeNail
Didn't anyone at the Kingdom Hall notice that this baby was malnurished? Didn't anyone feel the need to contact the authorities?...oh wait, we mustn't bring reproach on Jehovah's name...
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Jehovahs Witnesses couple accused of neglecting child by feeding only fruits, vegetables and juices
by Sol Reform inhttp://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/jehovahs-witnesses-couple-from-jupiter-accused-of-/nyhx3/.
posted: 2:50 p.m. tuesday, june 11, 2013. jehovah's witnesses couple accused of neglecting child by feeding only fruits, vegetables and juicescomment(31) 21 191 22 477relatedview larger louis, claudelview larger louis, vanessaby alexandra seltzerpalm beach post staff writer.
a suburban jupiter couple is in the county jail today after they refused to give their 19-month-old boy the nutrients he needed, causing him to end up in a local hospital's intensive care unit.claudel and vanessa louis face charges of neglect of a child with great bodily harm.palm beach county sheriff's deputies were called to st. mary's medical center in west palm beach on june 5 to investigate the child neglect case.. the 19-month-old boy was admitted to the hospital may 24 after he had trouble breathing.the boy's doctor told the investigating deputy that the boy was severely malnourished, underdeveloped and was in respiratory distress, according to a sheriff's probable-cause affidavit.
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PaintedToeNail
This sounds really odd, even for JW's!
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So, Whats the real reason JWs are no concessions open at the DC and are discouraged from supporting nearby vendors?
by BU2B inso ever since they discontinues the food service at the assemblies and dcs, jws have been "lovingly encouraged" to pack a light lunch to eat.
the secretary at the hall that i am held hostage in said during the service meeting that even a sub would be too heavy to eat, and that a light salad was the best option.
what do you fine people think is the real reason why, in the absence of food service, jws are told to not leave the building at lunch?
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PaintedToeNail
Also, if you go to an outside place to eat, you may not return in time to 'receive complete refreshment at Jehovah's banquet table'.
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John the BAPTISER vs John the BAPTIST - which do you prefer?
by PaintedToeNail ini have always wondered why, as jw's, we would always say jt baptiser instead of jt baptist like everyone else.
it bugged me, so i refused to say it.
does anyone know why the wtbts uses the 'baptiser' moniker instead of the norm?.
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PaintedToeNail
Rattigan-With that logic, my dentist isn't one, he is a dentaler, my machinist relative is a machiner and so on. The Baptist religion came long after John lived and died.
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Should all elders be painted with the same brush?
by Socrateswannabe inan hour or two ago, i was reading a topic on this forum that welcomed new elders to jwn.
there was some criticism aimed at the op and i understand that elders shouldn't be singled out as special.
one poster said he/she hates all elders.
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PaintedToeNail
Socrates-I forgot to mention, the Harnadek book helps you identify propaganda techniques, common errors in reasoning, logic, critical thinking, and how to be open minded. So many of the things that the WTBTS doesn't want you to understand are in this book.
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Should all elders be painted with the same brush?
by Socrateswannabe inan hour or two ago, i was reading a topic on this forum that welcomed new elders to jwn.
there was some criticism aimed at the op and i understand that elders shouldn't be singled out as special.
one poster said he/she hates all elders.
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PaintedToeNail
Socrates-For the littler kids I used 'Blast of with Logic' series, they have three workbooks designed for grades 3-4 (Logic Coundown), grades 4-6 (Logic Liftoff), and grades 5-7 (Orbiting with Logic).
The book "Critical Thinking", by Anita Harnadek, is the one I use with my oldest teenager, it requires that you (or your wife) do it with the child. Harnadek uses real life situations, articles from newspapers and so on, for evaluation. This book had a lot of discussions with the child in it and is a very enjoyable book.
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Low Carb & Mediterranean Diet
by UnConfused ini did very well on a low carb diet a year ago.
my doctor advised the mediterranean diet for heart health.. .
thus i'm trying to combine the two.
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PaintedToeNail
Unconfused-It sounds like you might like the "South Beach Diet", it is a cardiologist developed diet that is very well balanced. You could check the book out at the library. There are really great recipes in the book. Have you ever logged onto SparkPeople? They are a site where people encourage each other in weight loss and exercise. They have very encouraging real life stories submitted by users, as well as 'before and after' pictures.