Posts by PaintedToeNail

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The happiest people on earth... Yeah right

by Bells in

jw
friends

i am looking for some advice - or maybe just some moral support.. i can't find the link to my previous thread... but in a nutshell... husband and i got married a couple months ago after 10 or so years together.

he was never baptised, but grew up 'in'.

i never had any exposure to the craziness til i met him and his family.

PaintedToeNail

Bells-Would it help you to know the WTBTS recently (within the last few years) had an article in on of their magazines devoted exclusively to toasting?

You may have toasted with them before they read the article. Now that they have the edict against toasting, they couldn't in clear conscience toast your wedding. They are under the control of another mind, not their own.

You can sit and recount every slight you feel you have received from them, or you can forgive them and move on. Scary21 has some very wise words. Don't let your feelings for them disrupt your relationship with your husband. You could view them as pitiable, controlled and unhappy, and be glad you and your husband are free to live the life you want, without being ordered about by the WTBTS.

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Being told you are hated by everyone?

by trailerfitter in

okay, after a discussion with the seperated wife who admitted that because she is a jehovahs witness that she expects to be hated by everyone.

she expressed that she was "foreign" and not the same as others since she is not of this world.

okay, reality check - this is actually taught by the watchtower?

PaintedToeNail

trailer-It makes the JW's feel justified in their beliefs to say that everyone hates them. The least amount of normal annoyance by anyone on the outside is considered persecution and validates their skewed sense of purpose. I've actually heard JW's say that it is Satan who is requiring higher education to work in the medical field...no, it is just that people prefer to have someone work on them who actually understand anatomy, hygiene protocol, pathogenes, the nervous system and so on.

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What would be the best decision if we took out all the religion out of the blood issue?

by ILoveTTATT in

i am wondering this:.

what surgeries/procedures/situations have been shown to be life-or-death decisions without blood?.

i only know, currently, of trauma (car accident, gunshot wound, etc).... what would be treatable exclusively with "no blood fractions" and with "no procedures using my blood"?.

PaintedToeNail

Ilove-Years ago I worked at a hospital as a go-fer. I would have to go to the lab to pick up blood for the patients. This required cross checking the name on the bag and so forth. The blood bags were labelled "bio-hazard", which was rather alarming. It wasn't all that common to have to pick blood up. The doctors didn't order it lightly, it wasn't like they were ordering up Tylenol, they ordered it up knowing that it was a source of contamination for their patient, but after considering their other options, they did order it when it was their best defense for what was going on with that particular patient.

I would personally never lightly take a blood transfusion, but then most doctors would never lightly order up a blood transfusion either.

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BOE Letter: Re: Safety precautions when attending spiritual programs

by pixel in

i know atlatis will bring this letter to the forum.

i just wanted to paste it here and bold the most hilarious, weird thing fro the letter.

the bold part that i added made me lol.. .

PaintedToeNail

They wouldn't have the problem of the high-heeled, immodest shoes if they would just let everyone dress comfortably, in real clothing, like pants...then the sisters wouldn't feel the need to have their exposed legs look good and wear their immodest, high-heeled shoes...which I do not think are immodest.

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My story so far

by brainmelt in

jw
friends

i've been trying to avoid posting this, due to extreme paranoia but its time to post my story.

i hope to not post too many details, as we've avoided being df so far, our group elder was young and lovely and cool and i just hope that in time he learns the ttatt.. i'm a regular lurker on here, occasional poster (i can't post much as my phone browser only lets me read but not post, so i only post on the odd occasion i get a time alone on the pc).

i have been fading since round about last september ( so almost my first anniversary of learning ttatt).

PaintedToeNail

Brainmelt-I'm so sorry about your child's illness. It is reassuring that medical science has advanced so much and that cancer, while still scary, is often curable. You and your family have all my best wishes.

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Another new book: Jehovah's Witnesses - AN EXPOSE, written by a former elder and retired veteran United Airlines pilot

by AndersonsInfo in

a comprehensive new book:.

"the good... the bad... the deceptive.... and worse!

an expose".

PaintedToeNail

Barbara-I sincerely doubt he would remember me...I've never been too terribly memorable. I hope that he has mellowed with age, maybe even getting out of an extremely male dominated organization caused him to reevaluate himself, and learn even the ladies have the right to think. Have fun whenever you do meet him.

I want to thank you for alerting everyone to all the ongoing child abuse cases, this must be a rather daunting work for you and you do it so unflaggingly. Thanks again!

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Another new book: Jehovah's Witnesses - AN EXPOSE, written by a former elder and retired veteran United Airlines pilot

by AndersonsInfo in

a comprehensive new book:.

"the good... the bad... the deceptive.... and worse!

an expose".

PaintedToeNail

Staelins was the type of elder who could really speak charismatically. He was also a major egotist. His son 'J' is/was a real estate agent in Wisconsin...he appears to be somewhat influeneced by his father's personality. His son 'E' married a woman who was somewhat older than he, a pioneer sister from a huge family. Don't know what happened to his daughter 'P'. He had younger children also, one who died falling off a bicycle. His wife 'D' was sweet, but totally and completely controlled by her husband. He wouldn't let her dye her hair, wear makeup or do anything w/o his permission.

He once gave a talk at a congregation in the area where he insinuated women who were not menstruating were like animals in heat...that went over like a lead balloon and he started losing his thunder and people started to question his rationality. He really denigerating women.

His apostacy from the WTBTS seems to give credence to their thought that apostates are egotists who try to get men to follow them, he was an egotist and I cannot feel that his defection is a victory for any of us who have left the org.

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Another new book: Jehovah's Witnesses - AN EXPOSE, written by a former elder and retired veteran United Airlines pilot

by AndersonsInfo in

a comprehensive new book:.

"the good... the bad... the deceptive.... and worse!

an expose".

PaintedToeNail

I had the extreme displeasure of personally knowing this odious man 30 years ago. It would've been difficult to find a more inflated ego than his. He kept his wife and daughter under his thumb-I'm surprised he didn't force them to wear burqa's. He once said if his daughter, "P", didn't wear a belt on her pants, it meant she was 'loose'...nor was she to ride in a car with her brothers, because worldly people might see her and think she was immoral, being with a boy...what a whack job.

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Branch Organization Manual! download .....

by notgoinback in

as my second post on this forum, i want to share this with you guys!

this is the official branch organization manual (updated 2003) of jehovah's witnesses:.

http://jhonlemos.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/branch-organization-watchtower.pdf.

PaintedToeNail

You have a very powerful weapon at your disposal. Anything in there that would possibly help with the Elizabeth McFarland sex abuse case?

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Elizabeth McFarland child abuse lawsuit on the news

by cedars in

hi folks.

i'm aware that there is already a thread on the newly-announced elizabeth mcfarland lawsuit, but i thought i would start a new thread for the benefit of lurkers showing the newly released news videos more prominently.. here they are.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfhrhrvm2c4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xegm1gunz2c.

PaintedToeNail

Elizabeth, Thank you for your courageous pursuit of justice. You have my sincerest best wishes for a positive outcome on this case.