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  Anyone have VIDEO of the dramas from this year?

  by baltar447 in

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  the thread about sex being sensationalized made me think about this.

  does anyone have access to a video of the 2011 dramas?.

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  blond-moment

  I think this is the one they are referring too. Sunday Drama 2011--Joseph drama (Dayton, Ohio) - YouTube
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  Fingers in the ears tactic

  by trailerfitter in

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  2. experiences

  hi again, some of you know my partner is going down the road to the kingdom hall and will be baptised soon.

  thanks to those who gave some expert and wonderful advice about this earlier.... i am opposed to the jws message.

  i wonder some times if i just agreed to everything all will be okay.

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  "Make her prove every bit of BS that leaves her mouth. Do not let her change the subject. She has to prove the stuff that she comes up with ... no diversionsallowed" blacksheep

  If you do this, don't let her throw in any questions until she has answered yours. JW are trained to take control of the conversation by answering questions with questions. Soon as they do that, they control the convo. You don't have to get mean or angry, but stay firm.

  Randy Watters from freeminds.org has some great tips for talking to, and asking questions, that do not trigger the auto shut down(fingers in the ears) witnesses do. He has some great info on his site, even the "what does the bible really teach" study guide, how to study from that book, while raising the right questions that makes them think.

  That DVD made me so angry to watch, just propaganda fluff.
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  Stop making the BINARY error of Jehovah's Witness theology

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  true or false.. black or white.. life or death.. .

  the above are binary.

  this or that.. computing is based on binary choices.

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  blond-moment

  Excellent post, it does explain a lot. I'm definately going to use that #1 question, and it's reasoning. Brilliant.
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  WT message about Apostates

  by mankkeli in

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  2. friends

  because of listening to the devil and not rejecting his lies, the first human pair apostatized.

  so, then, should we listen to apostates, read their literature, or examine their web sites on the internet?

  if we love god and the truth, we will not do so.

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  blond-moment

  We can see that the active JW are not "obeying" the slave.

  The latest July 15, 2011 (paragraph 6 and 7 page 16) Watchtower says similiar "6..apostates are "mentally diseased" and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings." "7 We do not receive them into our homes or greet them. We also refuse to read their literature, watch TV programs that feature them, examine their Web Sites, or add comments to their blogs."

  I particularly liked the "mentally diseased" *twitch* part. I am so not mentally diseased! Yes you are, I am not, who asked you?
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  help! husband going to convention

  by leftchica in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi friends!.

  so my story is this: i married a jw who was inactive and once we got married he got back into "the truth" and i started to "study" with people in his congregation.

  i had many red flags and was hesitant to knocking on doors, but after a year of "what does the bible teach" being studied with a pioneer and having been pressured to go to meetings, i too, became a jw.

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  blond-moment

  There are youtube recordings of the talks as well. It was one of the things that helped to wake me up. I was having serious doubts tho, I was desparately (sad to think of how desparately now) trying to hang on to believing in them. I had been reading some watchtower articles on the "official" watchtower site and read one pertaining to the media. I was starting to look on the net for the first time, and I was in fear mode. So I wanted to arm myself (gag again).

  Anyway I read this article http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000622/article_02.htm Particually down where it talks about "making generalizations, name calling, and playing on emotions". Then I found the talk on youtube about Beware Apostates! I was soooo worried about becoming an apostate myself (oh how that word struck terror in me).

  I listened to that talk, and got more and more angry. They did EXACTLY what they warned about in that article. It was almost word for word what you should look out for. Even that wasn't my final straw, but it was a big straw that broke. It is amazing looking back, how hard I was fighting to keep believing in them. Even with everything right in my face, I still WANTED to believe in them. I was scared of the alternative.

  I fully understand just how hard it is to break free. But each straw that broke, it got easier. I was extremely grateful for sites like this. Even tho you big bad apostates scared me haha, it was so helpful to see that I wasn't crazy.
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  Are you an "apostate"?

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm quite new to this site, and i've noticed that many of you are more than happy to call yourselves "apostates", even though many of you evidently believe in the bible and in jesus as saviour, etc.. i'm aware that the society brands anyone who disagrees with them as being an "apostate", but just because they choose to do this, does this mean we should be comfortable with being so branded?

  should we "bend over" and take it?.

  here is what the insight book says on apostasy:.

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  blond-moment

  I have no problem being called an apostate. I call myself an apostate. For me, it's freedom. I remember how that word used to strike terror in me. It was suppose to. If you dare to leave, the WTS WANTS you to leave quietly, to keep quiet, to not speak out. Continue to be loyal to them by staying quiet. Since I have no love for the WTS, since I now can see everything, I refuse to do what THEY want.

  My calling myself an apostate has nothing to do with me, it is however a big FU to the WTS. They have totally lost their grip on me. I am not afraid anymore, and I won't do what they want. I wont keep quiet.
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  Masterplan?

  by Slidin Fast in

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  does anyone know what is going on in upstate ny.

  the billion dollar sale in nyc looks on the cards.

  wallkill, patterson, ramapo and warwick on the books.

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  blond-moment

  To me, it looks like they are finally building their "compound"

  http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=5&id=33716
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  Zombie computer games

  by watersprout in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so carrot has borrowed some games for his wii from a bloke at work, and one of the games is called ''dead rising''.

  from what i can see you have to kill all the zombies in a shopping centre.... well carrot has got hold of a chainsaw and is slaughtering all the zombies... he is laughing uncontrollably and keeps saying that it's the best game ever!.

  is it me or is this something men should have grown out of when they left puberty??.

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  blond-moment

  Adamakawee you took the words right out of my mouth. I too am a 45 year old zombie killer. I love zombies, I love horror, I love games, I like to play.

  There is a big difference between childISH and childLIKE. I embrace what is still childlike about me, and yes, I never thought of it till I started to read the boards, but part of it could be because I was denied so much growing up. I think I'm just a big kid at heart tho.
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  How do i overcome this guilt and fear?

  by newcomer1982 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ive recently decided not to be a witness anymore and at the age of 28 was still so afraid to tell my parents.

  the truth is their life and knew i would hurt them.

  ive had such a battle with the elders and because my dad is an elder its even worse.

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  blond-moment

  I agree with what most have said here, research the Watchtower society, research the history of the organization, learn as much as you can. The more I learned, the less I feared. The more I learned, the weaker the hold they have, and eventually it's gone.

  There are many who have dealt with, and are currently dealing with family. There are many who have been able to keep their relationships with those still in. Those would be the ones I would focus on. There is a whole stream of "how leaving the watchtower affected me" on youtube. Many have great advice re: family, moving on, etc.

  I also suggest freeminds.org. They have a phone/email help line set up. I was able to call and talk to someone, that was very helpful.

  Hang in there, keep reading, keep talking, like has been said...it does get better, it does get easier, freedom does come.
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  How do you make a living?

  by paulnotsaul in

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  2. friends

  since most of us believed it was right around the corner, how many of you went to any secondary schools or training?

  what do you do now to survive?

  are you working or unemployed?

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  blond-moment

  I took a course in medical assisting. I worked as a medical assistant for years, adding certificates wherever I could.

  Now I am a sewing educator. I used to travel quite a bit teaching, mostly up and down the east coast. Now I only do one show a year, in Michigan, in Sept.

  I mostly teach locally now.