Posts by cptkirk

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Let's talk about Psychology and the JWs

by cptkirk in

i should put out a series on this, taking one aspect of psychology and applying it to jw madness one facet at a time.

i think this is really a great one too, because oh god, the flood of thoughts in my mind right now, i could write an entire book..... lets look at one very specific point, self responsibility, but not only self responsibility, but also how we ascribe responsibility to others (in the borg terms).. we all know that this religion is mainly built on what?

status, and cult power right?

cptkirk

hmb: ya , i guess i know this....i guess the real point is, they portray themselves as being above this sort of thing, that somehow they are instructed by THE TRUE GOD. here is really where it gets funny and really gets into cognitive dissonance....because if you ask an elder or someone are we flawed? would a situation like this one above exist inside the organization and he would say SURE SURE OF COURSE YAYAYA....BUT then when you point out to him what this actually means and how it does not jibe with the teaching that we are given, what we are taught in terms of direction and spirit and all that....then all of the sudden its like dead silence lol.

the main point being, its all just human bs, there is no difference between this organization in this context, compared to any other org. the same bullshit that happens to people in a normal circumstance happens here....and then what do they say (because they cant say that god protects you) well they say WELL HE WILL SPIRITUALLY PROTECT YOU....well hummm maybe not? based on the acceptance of this principle contained above, the workings of aberrant human beings can supersede "the spirit" so that kinds even throws out the "he will spiritually protect you though" argument because that is also bullshit...thank you have a nice day, please tell us more lies and then call ourselves the truth , ridiculous.

people may be confused by my angles, as they often are. it's pretty simple really. i'm going to put MYSELF in the SHOES of ALL PEOPLE in ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, and i'm going to pretend i'm that person looking out how they are seeing things.....and make my argument inside their shoes....not because i'm just a great neato guy, but because i want to fully expose the lies.

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Let's talk about Psychology and the JWs

by cptkirk in

i should put out a series on this, taking one aspect of psychology and applying it to jw madness one facet at a time.

i think this is really a great one too, because oh god, the flood of thoughts in my mind right now, i could write an entire book..... lets look at one very specific point, self responsibility, but not only self responsibility, but also how we ascribe responsibility to others (in the borg terms).. we all know that this religion is mainly built on what?

status, and cult power right?

cptkirk

let me just take the initiative to fill in the blanks here for those that are not so psychologically motivated.

within this principle lies the core of what we see in cults more than any other place: which is the "blaming of the victim" ..this is generally where that whole thing is derived from, this kind of gap in reality.

the first point in the principle is less of a witness thing, but we see it with the witnesses more than anywhere probably....which goes like this:

let's say when you are a little kid, you have a tendency to steal little things, like a bag of chips from the store, little things like that. as you get older you probably have the same tendency....until maybe something happens you get caught etc and it stops. the main point is, the proclivity is inculcated in you at a young age, and just follows you indefinitely through your life.

the main point here is, this gap of reality that is created, whether it is literally being created in the illustration for the sons and daughters of divorced parents....or it is happening in this cult because of the fact that people can't take responsibility so they just dump it on the nearest and easiest target....THIS FOLLOWS YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, that is why i made the sarcastic comment about a shiny new productive citizen....because once that disconnect from reality is instilled at a young age, it follows you, and you then have a proclivity to disconnect from reality in many things in your life that determine who you are and what you will be. without that gel of reality to direct you properly, you are lost.

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Any one else like me?

by braincleaned in

i have pioneered every time i possibly could, gave talks... i was a good jw!

but for over 40 years, i had nagging doubts about the character of god.

to make a long story short, i'm now a happy atheist!

cptkirk

people want to believe what makes them feel good, can you blame them? we are here for a few decades then we die....they always get back to this notion of "that is what satan wants" (for you to doubt the character of god)....but here is the thing....if i take a cattle prod and ram it up your ass for a few years, you are pretty much going to go along with anything i say, so what is the point? that fact alone pretty much diminishes this entire notion of god and satan in terms of the big sovereignty thing being challenged....how would we be a part of that to begin with? if i am arguing with my wife about my sovereignty in the house, do i then go and shoot at all the neighbors and say "nothing to see here dont mind the bullets we are just ironing out my sovereignty".dont worry i'll resurrect your baby damnit shutup already

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Let's talk about Psychology and the JWs

by cptkirk in

i should put out a series on this, taking one aspect of psychology and applying it to jw madness one facet at a time.

i think this is really a great one too, because oh god, the flood of thoughts in my mind right now, i could write an entire book..... lets look at one very specific point, self responsibility, but not only self responsibility, but also how we ascribe responsibility to others (in the borg terms).. we all know that this religion is mainly built on what?

status, and cult power right?

cptkirk

I should put out a series on this, taking one aspect of psychology and applying it to JW madness one facet at a time.

I think this is really a great one too, because oh god, the flood of thoughts in my mind right now, I could write an entire book....

Lets look at one very specific point, self responsibility, but not only self responsibility, but also how we ascribe responsibility to others (in the borg terms).

We all know that this religion is mainly built on what? status, and cult power right? how good of a little cult leader you are , or on the flip side of the coin, how good of a little cult follower you are. and of course all those poor fucks that are stuck in between this complete cluster fuck of aberrant souls.

Let me give you an example of what I'm going to try and articulate here, and how it is blended in to JW cult policits.

Say you have a situation with a family here on one side, and a family here on the other side. Now there are divorces that occur. Now of course what do you have? step families right? ok so now the kids are all pissed off because they have a new step mother or step father that they never wanted right? ok, but lets say the kids really love their daddy or mommy, and even though they have all of this anger inside about the divorce, they just cant SEEM TO BLAME THE PERSON THAT DESERVES BLAME, because of a few reasons really. a. they love them oh so much, or b. they are smart and they aren't going to fight the hand that feeds them.

So what happens? all of the things that are the result of this new step family, and all of the angst it proves to inflict on the children creates this anger in the children as was mentioned. AGAIN, the children CANNOT blame the parent so they begin to do what? they begin to ascribe all of this negative energy to maybe their new step sister or step brother, or the cat for that matter. AND SO BEGINS THE BEAUTIFUL BEGINNINGS OF ABERRANCY AND LOSS OF ASSOCIATION WITH REALITY WOOOOT SOUNDS LIKE A PERFECT SHINY NEW MEMBER OF PRODUCTIVE SOCIETY TO ME PAT.

THIS IS OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE TO THE JW CULT, THIS ABERRANCY IS ONE OF THE COGS THAT KEEPS THIS BABY HUMMIN. YOU SEE *NOTHING* IS EVER THE FAULT OF THE CULT LEADERS NEVER, THEY ARE COVERED BABY LOLOLOL FUCK YEA! I CAN GO FUCK KIDS AND GUESS WHAT I AM GOOD TO GO WOOT, or whatever.

this is one psychological aspect of human behavior that completely de-rails connection with reality, and of course, WELL IT SORT OF IMPEDES YOU FROM ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE AND TRUTH, SO FIX YOUR OWN HOUSE BEFORE YOU COME KNOCKIN ON MINE.

oh and note to self, if you have a situation with a bunch of elders that have run wild and are meddling in everyone's affairs, elders that are afflicted with this afore mentioned aberrancy, well guess what ester? you got one big convoulted fucking mess of bodies to clean up.

god i love the borg

by cptkirk in

just sitting here thinking about how funny this religion is....when you look back and see how many whimsical decisions are made within this religion...it's so ridiculous, it's all about cult leadership, the cult of personality....oh that brother is real spiritual you can tell by his cult of personality....you know nothing about the guy, but he's got the cult personality and gestures, voice cadence, the whole 9 yards...so yea he's spiritual, that is definitely a way to judge someone's spirituality, by how culted out they are lololol..... .

it always gets back to the same thing with these guys, they want their cake and want to eat it too...but no, that is not possible.

you cannot put out black and white edicts and then turn around and say well...ok we will take it on a case by case basis, and we will judge how repentent this person is....or if this person is famous , ie.

cptkirk

just sitting here thinking about how funny this religion is....when you look back and see how many whimsical decisions are made within this religion...it's so ridiculous, it's all about CULT LEADERSHIP, THE CULT OF PERSONALITY....oh that brother IS REAL SPIRITUAL you can tell by his cult of personality....you know nothing about the guy, but he's got the CULT personality and gestures, voice cadence, the whole 9 yards...so yea he's spiritual, that is definitely a way to judge someone's spirituality, by how CULTED out they are LOLOLOL....

It always gets back to the same thing with these guys, they want their cake and want to eat it too...but no, that is not possible. you cannot put out BLACK AND WHITE EDICTS and then turn around and say well...ok we will take it on a case by case basis, and we will judge how repentent this person is....OR if this person is FAMOUS , ie. those tennis chics or prince or something....well then that has its own circumstance attached to it....IT IS EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER YOU CAN"T HAVE BOTH...it is either case by case, or it is black and white....IF IT IS BOTH THEN YOU ARE JUST A BUNCH OF CONFUSED CULTISTS CLEARLY

blows my mind just blows my mind....that guy who posted about congregations being disolved...if you ask a witness about that you know what they will say? they will say oh that just has to do with changing the maps and for efficiency and this and that...maybe sometimes, but guess what? a lot of the time it is because the congregation is CLEARLY SOOOOO FAR OFF THE DEEPEND THAT THEY HAVE TO SAY GO BYE BYE NOW

NOW, TELL ME, BLACK AND WHITE. THE CONGREGATION IS THIS AND THAT AND WATER HOLY WATER DIRECTION OF GOD IN THE CONG SOOOO MUCH, WELL IT DEPENDS HOW THE CONG SEES IT THAT IS PROBABLY HOW GOD SEES IT ROFL FUCK YOU. some of these entire congregations should be made into asylums ...but that is how god sees it? god is a mentally deficient wack job? COOL BRO VERY COOL ....you see how i act on these boards? do you really think i'm a total fuckin schmuck irl? i might be, but the point of my bizarreness on this page is TO BRING OUT THE FACT THAT THIS RELIGION IS ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE ...HOW DO YOU GIVE A COMMENTARY ON THE ABSURD WITHOUT BEING YOURSELF ABSURD?

btw the leaders are reading this board...i've said things on here with just the intent of seeing if i could pick anything up in the "backroom chatter" w/etf you call it...and i did. THE HOLY SPIRIT TOLD US THAT XYZ IS GOING TO HAPPEN...or maybe it wasn't the holy spirit, maybe it was you reading this web board as if it were serious? yes, i'm going to send out tapes of me bangin chics to all the congregation people, right, dumbasses.

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when elders talk = crap ....

by Princess Ashe in

elder informed me that i was not to talk to others why certain people were disfellowshipped.

huh?

i would think certain ones would want to know if he is a sex offender.

cptkirk

no. according to this web board you are spreading propaganda. according to this web board there is no such thing as JW rules on sex, as far as oral or positions etc. so we all know who you are friend so just cut the act right now! please no more propaganda on here about sex and the JWs.

you see here is crazy man cptkirk...with all these bizarre ideas he has about the JWs and their views on sex, because we all know that those ideas only exist in Kirk's mind.....

oral sex is equivalent to licking toilet bowl lol, i do like that though. i would love to see some of these dubs havin sex....like they do it with their pajamas on and if a small amount of semen gets on the pajamas they clean it with bleach immediately or something.

WHERE ARE ALL THE FKN HATERS???? COMEON GET YOUR ASSES ON THIS THREAD AND TELL THIS IMPOSTER THAT THERE ARE NO RULES ON POSITIONS OR ORAL IN THE JW CULT!!!

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Jehovah's Witnesses, and Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Approved Sex "practices".

by Balaamsass in

i was having a boring day at the office when my "jehovah's witnesses" google alert came up on gmail.

a fresh jw you tube had been posted.

seo seems to have changed again these last few weeks and new you tube videos are getting page one results.. i was amused to see this older video posted.

cptkirk

notice there are no responses here...just looked at a portion of the video, but let me explain something to you if you didn't already know this.....there are a group of individuals that clamp down on this web-site, they are the "elite" of the jw witness web site LOL...anyway, you shouldn't talk about sex, because it sets off their schizophrenic mental traits, and puts them in a sort of bizarre state, a state that is very similar in fact to the governing body's state of mind...so yea, they have that in common...i'd like to skull fuck all of them, and if i ever meet any of them irl, trust me , i will. the criminalization of sex, is the greatest scandal in the history of humankind, and the dipshit fucks that basically run this web site are in lock step with the fucking GB, so fuck em. may god burn down the WT society, and may he burn down this web site also.

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mark of the beast

by cptkirk in

premise.....those who take the mark are destroyed.... mark of the "beast".

cut through all the needless details..... a man or woman is worthy...if they do not take the mark of the beast...... mark of the beast in literal terms...... if i said mark of the plumber...it would probably indicate that person is a plumber...so mark of the beast..... bottom line: if you never let the beast out, you are worthy.. job just let shit fall on him perpetually without letting the beast out, so he was worthy.. you take a cute littly kitty cat ,harmless little thing.

every day take the cat kick it, throw shit at it etc.

cptkirk

ROFL!!!! O'RLY HAPPY HOUR?? dude if that icon is a picture of you, please just become a muslim. THINK ABOUT IT! if you actually only knew what a little pig shit you were, i'm not sure why you would continue to draw my air...what would be the purpose? SO with THAT said, stay oblivious OH WISE LITTLE BRAIN!

i don't buy into any of it, it's fun to dissect it though at times. now, go back to um your average meaningless life with your average house average lawn etc.

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mark of the beast

by cptkirk in

premise.....those who take the mark are destroyed.... mark of the "beast".

cut through all the needless details..... a man or woman is worthy...if they do not take the mark of the beast...... mark of the beast in literal terms...... if i said mark of the plumber...it would probably indicate that person is a plumber...so mark of the beast..... bottom line: if you never let the beast out, you are worthy.. job just let shit fall on him perpetually without letting the beast out, so he was worthy.. you take a cute littly kitty cat ,harmless little thing.

every day take the cat kick it, throw shit at it etc.

cptkirk

premise.....those who take the mark are destroyed...

mark of the "beast"

cut through all the needless details....

a man or woman is worthy...if they do not take the mark of the beast.....

mark of the beast in literal terms.....

if i said mark of the plumber...it would probably indicate that person is a plumber...so mark of the beast....

bottom line: if you never let the beast out, you are worthy.

job just let shit fall on him perpetually without letting the beast out, so he was worthy.

you take a cute littly kitty cat ,harmless little thing. every day take the cat kick it, throw shit at it etc. eventually the beast comes out...the claws come out, hissing ....this is common sense, it is a beast.

you continually kick a person in the face, eventually he/she will do the same thing.....some people last longer than others before they become beastly...but it is all in all of us.

so i guess we are all marked.

the end.

ps. job would of turned into the beast also, in the right circumstances. is that what this entire war is about? really? the gods must be crazy.

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Is your 3-day Watchtower Emergency Kit all ready?

by FatFreek 2005 in

have i missed something by not browsing each and every posting here?.

up till very recently, my two sons (one a jw and one, a non-jw) lived in the same community.

the never-baptized son decided to move to a different u.s. state and within a few miles of my home i'm a df'd person as of 33 years ago.

cptkirk

all this fear mongering cracks me up...how many end dates did we hit in 2011? bout 4 or 5? this year i know we have at least one....the funny part is, who cares? if the shit hits the fan just put a bullet in your head, or take a bottle of asprin or something. what difference does it make? our lives are like 5 mins then it's over anyway.....people are so devoid of excitement that this shit passes for entertainment....there is only 1 reason that we are in a pathetic state as a nation and as a people, only 1, trust died. once trust died, everything else natural died...oh and BTW trust ALSO DIED IN THE WONDERFUL AND BEAUTEOUS WT BIBLE AND TRACT CORPORATION ALSO. if people can start to trust again, and live up to that trust to some degree, a lot of shit will go back to normal. i love the way people use bible prophecy to talk about all of this disaster, meanwhile they ignore all of the other information that talks about everything being normal when the world ends, "women being given in marriage" and all that shit...the whole thing is bullshit as i said, it's a sad exuse for entertainment, and the only real thing that has changed in the world is that trust died...it really is all that simple.