I disagree. The Watchtower description of "mentally diseased" is realizing that you already are "mentally diseased" and getting healthy. But it is very sad about Lloyd.
Posts by Mum
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4Scandal and infighting has new article on the drawing board
by RULES & REGULATIONS in'brothers, we now have the xjw community on the ropes.
a scandal and infighting among the xjw community has given us new vigor against these ''mentally diseased apostates.
'' due to legal reasons, we will not name the person.
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Colloidal Silver
by Bobcat ini was curious if anyone had/has any experience with the use of colloidal silver for antibiotic and/or wound healing?
a health food store clerk recommended this in answer to my question about such.. thank you in advance.. just as a ps, i have heard about the man who turned his skin complexion blue.
apparently he ingested large amounts and applied it all over himself for an extended period.
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Mum
In the middle ages, there was the black plague. It was noteworthy that people who ate with silver utensils did not succumb to it. Apparently, silver does have antibacterial properties. Research bears this out.
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Lloyd has taken his video down: has anyone got a copy of it?
by raymond frantz inlloyd has taken his video down: has anyone got a copy of it?.
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Mum
I can't imagine being sufficiently interested in this nonsense to watch a 3+ -hour-long video.
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Loyd has made a statement on Facebook
by pistolpete inhere is a copy of loyd's facebook latest comment.
https://m.facebook.com/lloydevanscedars/posts/346085697519910.
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Mum
I don't condone Lloyd's behavior or consider it a "mistake." As Dr. Laura Schlessinger says, "Losing your car keys is a mistake. Purposefully doing something you know is wrong is not," or words to that effect.
Nevertheless, Christian or not, we need to be tolerant and forgiving because we are all guilty in one way or another. We can fool ourselves, but there's no need to look down on anyone else. If Dijana can forgive him, and I'm not sure she can, we have no standing to not allow him to redeem himself.
If he exploited young girls, the law needs to deal with him.
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Watchtower online religion.
by asp59 inshould we refer watchtower as to a online religion now?
i mean we could discuss if they ever return to kingdom hall's in the future.
if most of them haven't been sold.
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Mum
I cannot imagine their being able to control the "publishers" without in-person contact. They are already losing control. Yet, kingdom halls are being sold every day, so I'm confused. Do they want to maintain control and micro manage their people or not?
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AM III off topic remarks online @ jw.org
by Gorb inam iiii off topic remarks at the anual meeting, are online at broadcasting.. he says in the early 70s he did not believe the end was near, and told his sons not to believe jw's who stating the end is near because the system could go on to 2020.. g..
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Mum
"while being jacked up on scotch" AND living the high life at the expense of the "brothers" and criticizing the clergy for doing the same.
What a bunch of hypocrites!
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Dating in the Org
by Rattigan350 inyou men, who were brothers in the congregation and you were dating sisters in the congregation, did you find that they cared more about how you made them look in the congregation than they cared about you?.
you women, who were sisters in the congregation and you were dating brothers in the congregation, were you more concerned about how he affected your status & how you were viewed in the congregation, than you cared about him?.
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LongHairGal, thank you for the support. Yes, peace of mind is priceless. When I was young, I tried to please everyone, an impossible task. I did listen to "JW busybodies" and suffered a lot as a result. Then one day I figured out that it really was none of their business.
We are lucky to be Americans. I realized this when I went back to my old location and was persuaded to attend an elders' meeting. Up until then, I was still a true believer. But during the meeting, I realized that in another place or time, I could have been strung up and surrounded by people who rejoiced at my death. That's the way the elders treated me - for nothing!
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Dating in the Org
by Rattigan350 inyou men, who were brothers in the congregation and you were dating sisters in the congregation, did you find that they cared more about how you made them look in the congregation than they cared about you?.
you women, who were sisters in the congregation and you were dating brothers in the congregation, were you more concerned about how he affected your status & how you were viewed in the congregation, than you cared about him?.
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Mum
I married an elder over 50 years ago. He was 9 years older than I was. I was not in love with him, but most of my friends were already married, and I was almost 22 years old. The marriage apparently worked for him, but not for me.
He had so many rules for me. I couldn't go to Tupperware parties (about the only social events JW's had besides inviting someone for dinner), couldn't watch or listen to rock 'n roll, couldn't babysit or otherwise help friends unless it was so they could go out in service, etc. I wanted to return to college, but that was forbidden, too.
One time when my husband was the theocratic ministry school servant, I was assigned a talk. I wrote my "theme" for the talk on a piece of paper and gave it to him before the meeting. When it came time for me to "take the stage," I sat down, and he asked me, "Do I have your theme?" I replied, "I gave it to you." Of course, the congregation laughed. I went on with my silly presentation, thinking nothing more of it. However, it seems that the laughter of the congregation humiliated him. He certainly was thin-skinned if that upset him. When we got home, he lit into me for "causing them to laugh." I tried to convince him that it was no big deal, was natural in fact. But he wasn't having it. I couldn't convince him that I had done nothing wrong and hadn't tried to "make him look bad." Finally, I started crying profoundly because of the hopelessness of the situation. He slapped me in the face. That was "it."
I made plans to leave him. I moved to the other end of the country, where I had a cousin who helped me get on my feet. Ever since then, I have been an independent woman. Life hasn't been all roses, but I make my own rules and have never again "humiliated" anyone.
Thankful that I live in a country where such freedom is possible.
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What is your IQ? Does it Matter?
by Sea Breeze ini had an aunt that had rheumatic fever as a child and only had an iq the high 70's.
but, absolutely no one was able to bs her on an emotional level.
she had an uncanny ability to see through people's bs.
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Mum
Elvis Presley allegedly had an IQ of 70, but I don't think he exhibited characteristics of being "slow." He certainly earned a lot of money.
I always got high scores on standardized tests, but have always earned a low income. As others have said, IQ is only a "good start" at best. I am thankful that, in middle age, I got a job with a good retirement plan. Otherwise, I'd be in subsidized housing or on the street.
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QUESTION of the DAY (a brain teaser)
by Terry inquestion of the dayeach man chosen of the twelve jesus selected had been called disciples, or "students" (meaning "one who learns").
(latin discipulus; greek μαθητής mathētḗs; hebrew לִמּוּד limmûdh;jesus is stated in the bible to have sent out the twelve using a new description: apostles, "whom he also named apostles" (luke 6:13), first before his death "to the lost sheep of israel" (matthew 10), and after his (resurrection to spread the message of the good news to all nations (matthew 28:16-28:20).with the above firmly in mind, the question arises: “why aren’t the governing body called apostles?”.
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Mum
"Theocracy" is not a Biblical term either,