Probably someone will have to die because some JW was shunning a person who needed immediate medical intervention (or something similar) before the court will realize the criminality of shunning.
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3Netherlands: JWs prevail in Bethel raids and shunning cases
by Corney inthis week, it was revealed that the organization had won, at least so far and partially, two significant cases.. first, the overijssel district court declared that many items seized during the 2018 bethel raids contain privileged information, which the public prosecution service no longer contests.
this applies, in line with the supreme court judgement, to "all seized documents that, according to the complainants, fall under the right of non-disclosure ... and that contain information relating to information shared with elders in trust in the context of pastoral care, including information relating to the religious judicial committees"; apparently, 15 million electronic files the prosecution was unable to provide for judicial examination are also considered privileged.
the documents have already been returned, their copies are to be destroyed until 1 november.
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My prediction coming true
by Foolednomore inwhile back, not here on this net i don't remember.
i predicted that watchtower would allow you to buy your way into the kingdumb.
does anyone find this interesting?.
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Mum
No doubt that prediction came true. Do you also think they're moving toward televangelism?
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Becoming a JW
by Mum ini rarely post here, but i often check in.
i used to post on h2o as well.
i think i once posted some of this on h2o, but there are many new ones who have joined since then.. i first encountered jw's at the age of 9. it wasn't in the door-to-door work, however.
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Mum
Nathan Natas: I was in Lexington, KY during the 1950's, and I only met people who came to the Shriner's Hospital. Interesting that your name is Nathan. When I attended my first assembly in New York in 1963, a child named Nathan, who was only about 5 or 6 years old at the time, for some reason latched onto me and saw me every day at the assembly. I think his last name started with a G. I don't know if he was from New York or where.
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question for those who either aux pioneered pioneered
by enoughisenough inhow many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation?
i will admit that back in late 1970's i attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but i didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and i didn't feel like a cheerful giver.
i never attempted it again.
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Mum
I remember when it was called "vacation pioneering," but was changed to "auxiliary pioneering," probably so they could get people to do it even if not on vacation.
I auxiliary pioneered sometimes, probably because I was an elder's wife and felt obligated to meet certain expectations. I remember putting the word "Caucasian" in the blank on the application that asked my race. I didn't question the reason why they had to know your race. Anyway, one of the (ignorant) elders obviously had never seen the word "Caucasian" before, and brought my application to me, pointed at the word, and looked at me like I must be from Mars. He didn't say a word, just gave me a very quizzical look and pointed at the word. I just said, "That's right" and turned away.
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Becoming a JW
by Mum ini rarely post here, but i often check in.
i used to post on h2o as well.
i think i once posted some of this on h2o, but there are many new ones who have joined since then.. i first encountered jw's at the age of 9. it wasn't in the door-to-door work, however.
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Mum
smiddy3: I think they predicted the end in 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925. If I am wrong, somebody correct me.
Biahi: I don't remember the Franz finger shaking incident at the assembly. It could be because I wasn't paying much attention anymore at that point. The elders where I was just thought that date could be a few years off, but still expected Armageddon any time. I hung in there until 1979, but, after that, I could not endure my life and was losing my mind, and knew I had to do something.
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Becoming a JW
by Mum ini rarely post here, but i often check in.
i used to post on h2o as well.
i think i once posted some of this on h2o, but there are many new ones who have joined since then.. i first encountered jw's at the age of 9. it wasn't in the door-to-door work, however.
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Mum
Ozzie, We would have the world almost cleaned up in the new system by now if they had been telling the truth!
Yes, it aches literally and figuratively!
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Becoming a JW
by Mum ini rarely post here, but i often check in.
i used to post on h2o as well.
i think i once posted some of this on h2o, but there are many new ones who have joined since then.. i first encountered jw's at the age of 9. it wasn't in the door-to-door work, however.
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Biahi, I have been married twice, but both husbands are deceased now. My second husband was not a JW. My JW elder husband shunned me sometimes, but not always. He liked my family.
new boy: I will be 74 on November 1, 2022, almost 80.
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Becoming a JW
by Mum ini rarely post here, but i often check in.
i used to post on h2o as well.
i think i once posted some of this on h2o, but there are many new ones who have joined since then.. i first encountered jw's at the age of 9. it wasn't in the door-to-door work, however.
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Mum
LongHairGal,
Yes, I've been very lucky in many ways. Believe it or not, my mom became a JW near the end of her life -- after she became a bilateral amputee and couldn't go from door to door. However, to her credit, she never shunned me even though she knew I was an "apostate." She never told any of her JW friends that I was an apostate either. My daughter spoke to her about some of the issues of the Watchtower society, but her response was, "I'd ask them about it, but they'd take it the wrong way." My sister says her conversion was really about social interaction. My mom had great social skills, and the JW's would visit her often, send her flowers and gifts and food. Amazing!
I am just the opposite of my mom. I have poor social skills and blurt out what I see as truth a little to bluntly to be well-liked. That's okay because I enjoy my alone time.
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More money and meeting with 3 elders
by Foolednomore inso, we had this meeting with 3 elders ( larry, moe and curly) my uncle who is the lawyer sat in the room and stayed quiet, and fact for 40 minutes we let them talk.
we would just sit there.
they went into along winded monolog about how the world is in bad shape and getting worst.
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Mum
I'm so glad you had your uncle there. Committee meetings are JW hell. I wish everyone hauled before a judicial committee had legal counsel.
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Becoming a JW
by Mum ini rarely post here, but i often check in.
i used to post on h2o as well.
i think i once posted some of this on h2o, but there are many new ones who have joined since then.. i first encountered jw's at the age of 9. it wasn't in the door-to-door work, however.
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Mum
Ozzie! Glad you're here. Do the JW's still have your children? Life is good, thank you. I found a job with a decent retirement plan, but not until I was 48! Anyway, all's well that ends well, eh?
Cheers,
Mum, lover of cognac