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  Watchtower Double Speak

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  on eternal life.

  "none of us are in position to earn god’s gifts, least of all to earn the gift of life.

  but we can show ourselves worthy of the gift of eternal life by … dedicating ourselves to jehovah and then proving faithful to that dedication.” (the watchtower, august 15, 1952, p. 485).

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  It is presumptuous to say that we could ever be "worthy," no matter how hard we strive. That's why salvation is termed a "gift." Martin Luther called the book of James ("Faith without works is dead.") a "right strawy epistle."
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  WT Style Pacificism

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  episode 203 of netflix ... i am a killer looks at the murder of christopher chavez in texas.

  christopher chavez was a 22 year old ministerial servant and a born-in son of an jw elder.

  after a thursday night meeting and a quick bite to eat afterwards with friends at a local restaurant, he was kidnapped, taken to a gas station and forced to drive his killers around for hours while they were in the back seat.

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  What about using your own good sense/intuition/logic to assess the situation and your right of self-defense or escape? The Watchtower micromanages to a level of putting lives in danger. We all have the ability to figure out what we can and can't do in a given situation.
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  Which of you readers are being shunned by their relatives / friends ?

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a simple " me" if you dont want to say more--or a short explanation about who is shunning you and how long has this been going on.. i'll set the ball rolling: my daughter--her husband and children; my younger son --no contact from them for 40 years...because i left their religion.. (edit--i just noticed the typo in the header--if should be of ).

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  Mum

  Fortunately, I came from a non-JW family. My mother became a JW late in life, but she never shunned me. She expressed regret that I was no longer a JW, but did not shun me.

  I also have a niece who was a JW for a few years, and she didn't shun me either. Maybe I have a better family than I thought. No members of my family are currently JW's.
  Thank you, Jesus!
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  Memory and memorization

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  3.1415926535807932384626433i used to be able to go to a hundred from memory.

  my son and daughter can do so.age 75 has cheated me a bit in this regard.what sort of things have you memorized (whether useful or useless)?i can recite the entire rime of the ancient mariner to this day, btw.there are many so-called tricks for remembering things that can be easily learned and i've read all or most of those books.the amusing thing about such memory is this: nobody cares!

  "why do you need to memorize when you can just use your iphone?sigh...i memorized the periodic table of elements one day at work.

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  Mum

  I can recite MacBeth's soliloquy word for word, a French poem called "Clair de Lune," as well as the Pythagorean theorem, several Bible scriptures, the pledge of allegiance, and some other things.

  I find very little to no use for them.
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  Secret Building Project?

  by Mum in

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  2. friends

  i watch a lot of ex-jw videos on youtube and read many of the comments.

  recently, i watched a video by an ex-jw whose videos i had never watched before.

  i don't remember his handle.. anyway, there was only one comment posted at the time i watched the video.

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  I watch a lot of ex-JW videos on YouTube and read many of the comments. Recently, I watched a video by an ex-JW whose videos I had never watched before. I don't remember his handle.

  Anyway, there was only one comment posted at the time I watched the video. It stated that the person posting the comment had a son who was a volunteer for a building project of some kind for Watchtower, but he was not allowed to talk about it.

  Has anyone else heard of this? Does anyone have any idea why they would want a building project kept a secret? They usually boast about new buildings.
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  More money and meeting with 3 elders

  by Foolednomore in

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  so, we had this meeting with 3 elders ( larry, moe and curly) my uncle who is the lawyer sat in the room and stayed quiet, and fact for 40 minutes we let them talk.

  we would just sit there.

  they went into along winded monolog about how the world is in bad shape and getting worst.

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  Oops! I guess I thought all meetings were committee meetings if they're with the elders. Any meeting with the elders would be the Spanish Inquisition if they could get away with it.
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  No funeral

  by road to nowhere in

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  i have run across another jw death where the final wishes are for no service.

  3rd or 4th instance.

  another wanted a celebration of life which the elders squelched as far as i know.

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  It has to be tough being a PIMO. I hope you find some way to enjoy life when the relatives aren't around.

  I asked my daughter to donate my body to science.

  I totally agree that a JW funeral is the worst!
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  What are the odds that Armageddon is soooo close?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well judging from past prophetic pronouncements....go figure.

  "surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of god that the lord jesus is present and has been since 1874;…" watchtower 1924 jan 1 p.5).

  "the prophecy of the bible, fully supported by the physical facts in fulfillment thereof, shows that the second coming of christ dates from the fall of the year 1914.

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  Yes, I remember wondering why world events didn't get much worse in the late '60's and early '70's. I was expecting the Great Tribulation, but life hummed on normally. In early October 1975 I remember standing in my kitchen, expectant of some cataclysmic event, but nothing happened. NOTHING!

  Needless to say, that time was the most disappointing and unnerving time of my life. Then, at the kingdumb hall, they told us that we didn't know how much time there was between the creation of Adam and the creation of Eve (as if that had something to do with their false prophecies) and that they could be a few years off.

  By 1979, I didn't care if I made it through Armageddon or not. My mental health was failing, and I knew I had to change my situation in order to get it back. I am thankful for that false prophecy because it got me THINKING!
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  A Great Life After Leaving

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/shunned-jehovahs-witnesses-life-now-7613921.

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  TonusOH: I'm glad you had a support system in place. It helps a lot.

  When I left, I went to stay with a cousin far, far away where no one had known me as a witness. Therefore, I didn't have to deal with shunning either. Whatever works!
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  No Small Change.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://fundraising.co.uk/2022/08/24/charity-commission-data-shows-mass-merger-of-over-1000-jehovahs-witness-congregations/.

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  eyeslice: I didn't think a church would ever be converted to a kingdumb hall, but you actually know of one. I have a friend in Chico, California who told me of a church building there being converted into "some kind of Jehovah's witness place." I told her I couldn't believe they would move into a former church because they believed Satan lived there. Wow. Apparently, I'm still learning about them.