Welcome to the board, lenaga.
We look forward to hearing more from you. I think English is not your first language. Do you live in the U.S.?
I was a JW in the 1960's, under the regime of Nathan Knorr, but I never saw a picture of his wife.
Welcome to the board, lenaga.
We look forward to hearing more from you. I think English is not your first language. Do you live in the U.S.?
I was a JW in the 1960's, under the regime of Nathan Knorr, but I never saw a picture of his wife.
i checked jw.org earlier today.
the october 1 wt was up, but the pdf function did not work-still you could read the articles.
the october g was up too, no pdf but you could read the articles.. oddly, after the article on belize it had an item about not missing the upcoming 2014 memorial of jesus' death.
Can one get disfellowshipped for computer semi-literacy which causes him to screw up the online magazine? Maybe reproof will be sufficient if this is the first offense. The WT encouraged computer illiteracy for so long that maybe it's payback time. How many high tech gurus want to work for the publishing corporation that doesn't pay anyway?
has the gb ever explained exactly how they supposedly communicate with god and get new light or other "inspiration" for their "spiritual dog food"?.
do they all sit in a room together and hold hands and join one conciousness??.
do they fall asleep and go to the dream world and talk to jehovah there like the movie inception or something??.
Didn't Ray Franz talk about this in C of C? I think they take a vote, and any "idea" that two-thirds of them agree with is "new light."
i'm at starbucks .
just outside in the courtyard.. i'm trembling.
my hands are shaking.. wow!.
As my friend Danny says, The Lord must love stupid people. He sure made a lot of them!
in the last 6 months my family and i have stopped attending cold turkey.
it is incredible to me to see how our so called friends have dropped us like we were a snake covered in spiders.
we actually havent really said anything to anybody about why we stopped.
Congratulations! Welcome to freedom!
Your children can find friends at the Boys' and Girls' Clubs and YMCA/YWCA where you live. In most places, there are summer school and vacation Bible school activities for kids as well. Help them forget those snooty smug, self-righteous JW's!
after 140 years of preaching and millions of books, magazines, and tracts, all the wtbts has to show is a measly 7 million members.
the mormons, baptists, pentecostals and many other religions have more members without the preaching work.. in your opinion, is 7 million members way too many for all the odd beliefs, doctrines and practices ?
or, should be more members since they have had over 140 years of being in the religion business?.
They would have lots more than that if not for their bizarre predictions that sow doubt in the mind of anyone who can think AND if they didn't disfellowship anybody who looks at them cross-eyed. They might want to keep the numbers small because it's easier to control a limited number than a vast number.
both reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.
it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.
we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.
It's pointless to have all of this anxiety. Things usually work out for people who follow their dreams. It's best to take one day at a time and enjoy every moment you can. History has taught us that scrimping and saving does not guarantee future security. There was a time in China when it took a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread. There's no guarantee it won't happen here at some time in the future. If we could predict the future, it would be much easier to make plans. But we can't. Do what you want to do for as long as you can.
Acceptance is the key to ease in life. - Dorothy Sayer
when i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.
i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.
they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".
I attended a JC once. I did realize at some point during the proceedings that, if it were legal, they would have taken me outside, tied me to a tree (or something), and set me alight. Thank God I was born in the USA. Objectivity and basing decisions on facts are alien concepts to the arbitrarily powerful.
i have also attended spanish congregations.
this has helped me to understand and respect totally different perspectives and narratives on race.
please be respectful during this discussion.
Yes, the WT has lily white cultural leanings. I am white, from E. Tennesse/SE Kentucky. Hillbillies were never criticized for their strange-sounding dialect and speech patterns. One ignorant hillbilly "brother" told me he was complimented by the circuit overseer's wife on a talk he gave. I knew this guy pretty well, and his speech was full of errors, as he probably had not even graduated from 8th grade.
My first congregation was upscale because it was the congregation of my dad's boss. Nevertheless, even though this was the least déclassé congregation I ever attended, there was still plenty of ignorance and bigotry.
When I got married, I moved to a congregation in the South that was in the process of desegragation. The white "brothers and sisters" always referred to tha African Americans as "the colored brothers and sisters." The CO's wife, a pioneer, criticized one of the black "brothers," saying he was for "black power." Actually, he was from Detroit,and was much better educated than the Southerners in the congregation. One "brother," a native Southerner, told me he thought the black householders were "impressed" that white people would come to their door to offer whatever we were "offering." The racism was obvious to me, but I don't think anyone there saw himself/herself as racist.
it happened to one of my friends.
what do you think of the guy's behavior?.
a girl and a guy are coworkers.
Good point, objectivetruth. It is a peculiarity about "religious" people that they adhere to the "special" things about their religion more than the commonplace things. Marital unfaithfulness happens in all religions. Yet, some won't eat pork, ride in a motorized vehicle, drink alcohol, etc. while they're cheating on their spouse or having premarital sex. Go figure.