Mum

Joined

• started 38 topics
• posted 3,357 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Mum

• 
  14

  Is the Watchtower a secret society?

  by marriedtoajw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the watchtower teach that keeping secrets is ok?

  does its leadership believe that the advancement of the organization hinges on holding back truthful information from prospective members and others who are not in leadership positions?

  do you believe that the organization as a whole has a global agenda?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  The WT Society does its best to control the amount ant type of information its adherents have access to. Most rank-and-file JW's have no idea about the extent of child sexual abuse in their religion. They might know of one or two cases and see them as isolated incidents, not a source of serious WT income loss. Many of them are not aware of the false prophecies of the past or other historical information about their "religion." The Society also keeps its controversial doctrines (i.e., shunning, no blood transrusion, no saluting the flag, no birthdqay or holiday celebrations, etc.) from the public. I've met people who tell me JW's are just weirdos, but nothing to worry about.

  Their central doctrine is that "God's kingdom" is about to take over the earth soon, any minute now. You'd think people would get weary of this false promise, but the WT is very clever about keeping the carrot in front of them but never giving it to them.

  In short, they are a somewhat dangerous cult, but mostly to children. JW schoolchildren need real support and understanding. They're innocent and have no idea they're being duped, even if they're being molested.
• 
  72

  Muslim loses contract because of his religion

  by usualusername in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i interviewed an it company to support my business run from home.. .

  the doorbell rings and i ask my girlfriend to answer the door.. .

  i meet a trendy young woman and a hip muslim.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  Years ago, I worked in hotel reservations in Nevada. In the department next to ours (hotel management), there was a female supervisor over a male Muslim employee. He, the Muslim, had serious issues about being supervised by a woman. He finally quit or got fired. I just remember that one day he wasn't there, and this is the story I was told.

  Being non-discriminatory religiously is a tricky business. In the book entitled The Orwellian World of Jehovahs's Witnesses, a case is presented in which a young jW woman worked for a gynecologist. She turned a "sister" who had an abortion in to the elders. I don't know the end result or this story, or even if it is related in the book. The point of the story, of course, is tht religious discrimination might be justifiable in some cases.

  If you haven't watched the movie Persepolis, I recommend you go to Youtube and do so. It is about educated Muslims and the fact that they know some of their teachings are BS. I recall in particular a scene in which a mother is trying to keep her son from joining the military. She states that he was given a plastic key to open the "door to paradise."

  So, usualusername, you may think the guy was a jerk, but, like a JW, he thought he was being "righteous."
• 
  29

  It's my birthday today

  by Bruja-del-Sol in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... but most of my new (post jw) friends either don't know my birth date (if people don't specifically ask i won't tell them), or they are 2500 kilometers away in the netherlands... so all that's left to celebrate with me are my hubby, the two doggies, cat and my two rabbits... mixed feelings, i miss my friends and family around and haven't found friends in spain yet.

  luckily our daughter will visit us the end of the month... and yesterday we've found a new rental house and we're moving into it next month already!

  i'm thrilled and really looking forward to it, then we will finally be able to let all the rest of our belongings come to spain (2/3 of our stuff is stored in the netherlands).. so with this in mind, i'll just say 'happy birthday to me' and will enjoy my third birthday in espana .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  Buenos cumpleanos!
• 
  21

  How Have You Changed Much In Attitude & Actions Since Leaving The Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it takes time to stop thinking or reacting like a jehovah's witness.. are you still judgmental?

  a know it all?

  a person that listens more with their heart instead of their head---like jehovah's witnesses ???.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  As a child and adolescent, I had very controlling parents. So I learned to appease others and to obey to avoid trouble. Knowing only how to obey and appease is a recipe for disaster because you're sure to get into situations where one person is pleased with you, but another is not. I have read sooo many self-help booka and have learned to evaluate situations and people so that I can make healthy and appropriate choices. I am much more open and talkative now - and much more confident.

  Please, people, to the extent that they are capable, allow your children to make their own decisions and accept the consequences. No one learns how to cope with life by being ordered around and humiliated if someone is displeased with them.
• 
  48

  Any Senior Citizens, Retirees here?

  by AlwaysBusy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  howdy....well, what do you think?

  of everything?

  is it all crazy?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  66 and semi-retired in 2007. I've been living rent-free (but helping with expenses) with my daughter and son-in-law for 2 years, but they are splitting up. It makes me sick!
• 
  14

  The Worst Way of Living

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the unexamined life is not worth living.. -socrates.

  holding all of humanity in contempt and degrading every achievement of mankind as being insignificant is not a philosophy or a worldview worth having.

  tell me, oh self righteous jw, what was the price of your integrity?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  sowhatnow: I recommend that you go to a local community college and request a vocational interest test and other psychological instruments to determine what you might like to do or be good at doing. Then pursue an occupation or profession for which you are suited. You've still got 13 years before you turn 65, and 65 is a lot younger than it used to be. I'm 67, and I recently took a course in Teaching English as a Second Language. Now I'm taking Chinese to prepare myself to live in China and teach English.

  Don't despair. Act, and things start to happen.

  Best wishes!
• 
  85

  JW GB MEMBER CAUGHT ON CAMERA!!!

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gb member and so called "annointed" person geoffry jackson is caught red handed on video doing some worldly dancing and sexual gyrating (they have spoken against such manner of dancing on several occasions) with a woman who is not his wife!!!

  i can only imagine what they do off camera now!!!.

  i would not have even considerd doing such a thing on the dance floor with a woman, especially if it was not my wife, and i'm not even one of the so called "annointed" smh!!!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  What would he/they say if the Pope of Rome did this?
• 
  35

  Do you like the people in the Bible?

  by Dis-Member in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the society always speaks about all the wonderful people and characters in the bible.. they always too speak of many of them as being so humble, faithful, loyal, diligent, loving, kind, wise, merciful etc, and worthy of imitation.

  also of how god blessed them followed by endless examples and reasons why we today should imitate them.. .

  they also speak of how wonderful it would be to meet some of these people in the future 'new system' and have often depicted scenes where the the survivors of armageddon would be gathered around some ancient resurrected faithful asking them questions and listening to their stories of times past.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  I think I would like Amos if he's the guy who wrote the book of Amos. He had his priorities straight and cared about the poor and needy.
• 
  47

  The Illusion of Superiority

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after reading dozens and dozens of posts and hundreds of comments, it seems to me that a great many people on this forum think that since they figured out ttatt, they must therefore be a highly intelligent and incredibly rational individual.

  let me take a moment to congratulate everyone.

  its a big step to figure this out - i know.. that said, it doesn't make you a genius!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  It's basic tenets of logic.

  Category is the correct spelling of "catagory."

  We are all people here with gifts and with flaws. I don't perceive the feeling of "superiority" you accuse us of having. Most of us have learned many things besides TTATT. Just sayin'.

  I did take a course in logic in college, and I am familiar with the fallacies and dilemmas we all face from time to time.
• 
  32

  Is new light coming again?

  by justme67 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just turned in my resignation letter to my congregation a few weeks ago.

  last week, 2 elders called me to say they received my letter and would like to meet with me to discuss my concerns.

  in my letter, i said i had found out about all the child abuse cases that were going on and that i didnt agree with their policy of disfellowshipping.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Mum

  Hi, justme. Interesting that you bring up the mob. In fact, I have seen many parallels between mob behavior and JW behavior:

  1. They all go on "vacation" together, i.e., assemblies, and the controls keep tightening about where to sit, etc.

  2. If you get on the wrong side of them, they "whack" (disfellowship) you - not literally, of course, but probably only because that would be illegal.

  3. Image is everything. I saw a TV documentary in which a mobster's daughter was not allowed to get a tattoo, but her mobster dad committed atrocities every day.

  4. Everybody spies on everybody else. If you step out of line, you will be reported.

  5. There is a criminal protection network; e.g., child molestors are protected, but their victims are re-victimized.

  I'm sure there's a lot more, but I have time limits.