Love, schmove. Show me in the Bible where it says to be cruel to someone in need. What is the point of the parable of the Good Samaritan to them?
Posts by Mum
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5I have friend who was disfellowshipped and shunned
by Yomama infor giving another disfelowshipped person shelter because he was homeless.
so i told him he should thank wt for preparing him for social isolation by shunning you as evil as shunning is..
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Reading the Watchtower publications will give you an university education.
by Overrated inthe watchtower said that reading their stuff would get you a college education.
can anyone recall that gem?
my parents sure bought into that crap.
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Mum
I know that no one in my previous congregation could score even what an average 8th grader could on the ACT or SAT. I think we should have sample ACT's and SAT's to give them when they come to the door so they can show off their "vast knowledge."
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Goodbye yhwh-Goodbye jesus
by fulltimestudent ininteresting report in a oxford university blog - the world is becoming less religious, (hurray!!!).
quote: "an analysis of religious trends from 1981 to 2007 in 49 countries containing 60% of the world’s population did not find a global resurgence of religion—most high-income countries were becoming less religious—however, it did show that in 33 of the 49 countries studied, people had become more religious (norris and inglehart, 2011).
but since 2007, things have changed with surprising speed.
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Mum
Personally, I find religion as distasteful and many of you. However, having grown up in the Southern Highlands, I can see its usefulness for many.
There are lots of people living down here who, without religion, would be doing greater harm to themselves and others. Believe it or not.
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Dumb Elders
by minimus ini knew a few pretty intelligent elders .
sometimes i would wonder why they remained as elders or even witnesses because they were successful men who made a good living and were highly respected because of their qualities.. that is a rather small group.
most elders that i know of aren’t the brightest bulbs in the sky.
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Mum
Great to see that Nathan's wicked sense of humor is still intact...
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Dumb Elders
by minimus ini knew a few pretty intelligent elders .
sometimes i would wonder why they remained as elders or even witnesses because they were successful men who made a good living and were highly respected because of their qualities.. that is a rather small group.
most elders that i know of aren’t the brightest bulbs in the sky.
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Mum
What happened to him, asked minimus,
I moved far away, and he stayed behind. He sued me for divorce (on grounds of "cruel and inhuman treatment," the most gentle grounds available at that time). This was 2 years after I had gone. He tried to get me to "confess to adultery," with no regard to the truth of it, so that he could remarry. I didn't.
I remarried about 2 years after the divorce was finalized. He didn't remarry until I had been remarried at least 6 years. I'm sorry, but he was not the kind to be attractive to women.
I think he was asked to step down from being an elder, and he did. For about 2-3 years, he went inactive.
He died a few years ago, at the age of 77. He was 9 years older than I was.
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Dumb Elders
by minimus ini knew a few pretty intelligent elders .
sometimes i would wonder why they remained as elders or even witnesses because they were successful men who made a good living and were highly respected because of their qualities.. that is a rather small group.
most elders that i know of aren’t the brightest bulbs in the sky.
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Mum
Back when I was a JW, I married an elder whom I would describe as dull normal. He had a tremendous ego, and he was the theocratic ministry school servant,
On one occasion, I was assigned a talk on the school. We had to provide the school servant a theme for our talk. I wrote out my theme and gave it to my husband at home.
Fast forward to the KH and time for me to give my talk. The other sister and I got on the stage and sat at the table, ready to go. My husband went to the podium, turned to me, and asked if he had my theme. I replied, "I gave it to you." The congregation laughed. I gave my talk, and the meeting proceeded. Everybody went home at the end, of course.
When we got home, I was given a dressing down because the congregation laughed. I tried to get "him" to see that the laughter was normal under the circumstances. "He" would not accept it as normal, and kept on at me. I started crying profoundly, and pleaded my innocence by reminding him that all I had said was, "i gave it to you." "He" slapped me in the face.
He wasn't about to apologize or acknowledge that I had not harmed him in any way.
That night, I started planning how I would get away.
I never cursed at him or did anything but build up his pathetic ego. I partly blame myself for helping to create this monster because of my constant efforts to make him feel special.
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Understanding a family member that’s A witness
by understandingjehovah ini need some advise or understanding.. my brother became jehovah witness because of his wife.
our dad is dying and over the last two months he’s done some very weird stuff.. my family knows he’s not a real witness because he sells corn liquor and pills, drinks daily, let us have our moms birthday at their house.
he’s also committed adultery, it’s rumored that he molested our cousin when he was younger, done fraud to my dying dad, lied about being our dads poa for greed only to find out he’s not, lied to the family about his estranged daughters, called his oldest daughter a b*tch because she doesn’t want anything to do with him, lied on our dads life to her to get her to talk to him, he has the name nympho tattooed on his neck, has slandered his immediate family and abandoned two of his daughters for over 20 years to start a family with his new wife.
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Mum
Mental illness and self delusion are at the heart of being a Jehovah's Witness. I'm sorry that all of this is going on in your family.
Your brother is supposed to confess his sins to the elders. I think he has the skills to convince them he is "repentant" and get away with whatever he wants to do.
Buck up. I wouldn't expect things to improve.
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Questions for Jehovahs Witness's (From a Christian)
by QuestionsforJehovahWitness inhey all!just to start i want to let you know the reason i'm here is for a school project.the project is very simple.
the goal is to learn about other religions.
this information will only be used to inform not to spread hate, deceit, or insult.i have three general questions.
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Mum
Good luck with your research. As you may have guessed by now, the people on this forum are former Jehovah's Witnesses who have seen through their bogus theology and escaped from their brainwashing nonsense.
Personally, I am an agnostic. Believing wholeheartedly in a god who uses 8 men in New York USA to dominate the lives of the most vulnerable among us has lost its sheen. The 8 men are called the "governing body," and they have far more power over their followers than the pope has over Catholics.
Jehovah's Witnesses see themselves as Christians, in fact, as the only "true" Christians. They prefer the Old Testament version of God to the loving, accepting Jesus of the New Testament. Some of the beliefs that distinguish them from Christians is that they don't believe in the Trinity, won't sing traditional hymns (They have their own songs and songbook.), have their own translation of the Bible that emphasizes mind control, and refuse blood transfusions. They told their followers that the end of the world would come in 1975, or near that year. They had set previous dates for the end as well - 1914, 1918, 1925 to name a few. Yet, their followers are so brainwashed and fearful that they ignore the fact that the end did not occur and continue to put full faith and trust in the organization. If a JW displeases their local "elders," he or she may be "disfellowshipped," and then no active JW (including their own family - parents, siblings, children - i.e., any JW) is allowed to speak to them or associate with them in any way.
They believe in "new light," the idea that their god/the governing body continues to receive new perspectives on belief. So, doctrine changes happen fairly regularly. It's hard to keep up with the latest directives from the governing body/god.
They are essentially a publishing company, printing books and other literature written at a 4th-grade level. JW's are required to sell ("place" is their term) this literature door to door.
They are against education past high school. They know that college can induce thought, and thinking leads to "apostasy" (their word for waking up and smelling the s**t). "Independent thinking" (the only real kind of thought) is deeply discouraged. It's fundamentally believing that God gave you a brain and commanded you not to use it because the governing body knows everything you need to hear.
I could go on and on, of course, but those are the basics and most of the reasons we are no longer JW's. I hope I've given you enough to get an A.
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If You Have A Choice To Listen To Any Music, Any Artist —what would you like??
by minimus ini love rhythm and blues and soul music.
i love funk but i also enjoy music of the 60s and 70s.
just not really into classical or country western although some country is pretty good..
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Mum
Etta James is the best! The '50's doo-wop and rock 'n' roll are also some of my favorites. You can't beat Mozart either. Yes, I have eclectic tastes.
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Why couldn't I stop laughing?
by Vanderhoven7 inhelp me understand why i could not stop laughing watching this apparently serious video?.
https://youtu.be/xluj6cpznw4.
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Mum
His earnest and emotional tone and some facial expressions amused me when he was talking about such mundane, boring realities of being a JW.
I don't know if anyone without experience being a JW or being closely associated with JW's would really quite understand all he was talking about. I like him. I agree that he's a really nice person and am glad he's freed himself.