it looks like they are cracking the whip and weeding out the undesirables whether it be elder or inactive ones..
Same as always, the elders will only chase down "faders' if they're "High Profile Targets."
Read DNCalls account:
I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but if you're "nobody" and you fade: No one fucking cares about you ... at least no one in the JW org.
Nothing's Changed.
it's said that apostates/ex jws are the ones who twist and lie.
what if real strong black and white evidence, undeniable that the wt infact are the ones doing that.
look at the proclaimers book, page 218. they are talking about the june 1st and june 15, 1938 wt.
Thank you. I am intrigued by your thesis and want to follow your line of thought, but had a heck of a time doing it.
Good, clear writing is hard to do.
it's said that apostates/ex jws are the ones who twist and lie.
what if real strong black and white evidence, undeniable that the wt infact are the ones doing that.
look at the proclaimers book, page 218. they are talking about the june 1st and june 15, 1938 wt.
EOM: Interesting stuff. But I gotta' say, your writing is hard to follow.
everything was great untill about two years ago untill she realized i wasn't a jehovah witness.
i didn't notice it before but now i noticed the next day she began to give me verses about the "truth".
it recently got worse with her religious debates lately i've been able to prove her wrong with most of them.
If you REALLY want to help your friend, read Steven Hassan's book:
everything was great untill about two years ago untill she realized i wasn't a jehovah witness.
i didn't notice it before but now i noticed the next day she began to give me verses about the "truth".
it recently got worse with her religious debates lately i've been able to prove her wrong with most of them.
TNIB: We have been friends for 4yrs now but at first she didn't bring up religious meanings until she realized that we didn't share the same beliefs.
OK, that just doesn't make any sense at all!
How could you possibly be friends for 4 years and she not know you weren't a JW? That's just not possible.
First, as I said before and as Blondie confirmed with a few WT quotes, it'd be disobedient to WT "Theology" and practice for a JW to even associate with someone that isn't a JW let alone be friends. It would be odd for you to know each other for 4 days without the subject coming up let alone for 4 years.
Since you don't apparently know this, let me clue you in: JW's don't "share the same beliefs" with any other religion.
TNIB: When I do win a debate all she does is say "I'll research it" and never brings it up again.
Do you want to win debates or have a friend? Generally the two are mutually exclusive.
Something about your whole account just doesn't smell right.
Either your friend is being dishonest or you are.
The only thing, and I mean THE ONLY THING, that could possibly explain this is that your "friend" really does NOT want to be a JW and is leading a "double-life" 1 by befriending you. If that's the case then you could possibly show her the door out of the cult. What I mean by that is that by showing her that people that are not JW's are normal, good, kind and loving people you will be opening for her a door of understanding that has previouslyb been nailed shut.
She has been taught all her life that you can NOT have a wonderful, fulfilling life outside of the organization known as Jehovah's Witnesses. On the other hand you have the opportunity to prove to her the real truth. She can leave the WT and she will not die, go crazy, worship Satan or become a drug-addict that has to sell her body to make a living.
Reality, what a concept!
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1 - "Double-life" is a JW expression which, when translated into normal English, means that a cult member is basically a normal person when they are NOT with fellow JW's, but when they with other JW's they pretend to be True-Believers.
Of course, JW's would say that it is the exact opposite of this, but they do that with a lot of words.
some years ago, i heard from an ex-co who left the borg after the 1980 fallout that frederick franz was extremely outspoken on the subject of gluttony, obesity and staying fit.
he frequently took the stairs instead of the elevator and asked others to do the same as much as possible.
also, whenever the opportunity presented itself, he would also call out bethelites on their eating habits if he noticed even a hint of body fat on them.
CA: Good for your brother.
The GB could stand to lose some weight, about a ton!
2,000 lbs. / 8 GB guys = 250 each
That's just about right, maybe a little high; Stephen Lett is a lightweight, I'm sure there's not much above the shoulders on that one!
some years ago, i heard from an ex-co who left the borg after the 1980 fallout that frederick franz was extremely outspoken on the subject of gluttony, obesity and staying fit.
he frequently took the stairs instead of the elevator and asked others to do the same as much as possible.
also, whenever the opportunity presented itself, he would also call out bethelites on their eating habits if he noticed even a hint of body fat on them.
From the Shepherd the Flock of God, which the OP referenced but did not quote:
Gluttony: (Prov. 23:20, 21; w04 11/1 pp. 30ยท31) A glutton routinely shows a lack of restraint, even gorging himself on food to the point of feeling uncomfortable or becoming sick. Gluttony is determined, not by someone's size, but by his attitude toward food. - STFOG, p. 67 - Emphasis in original
So according to this, you can be obscenely obese and still not be a glutton as long as you have the "right attitude" toward food: you never eat "to the point of feeling uncomfortable or becoming sick." On the other hand, some skinny whinnies could be gluttons if they have the "wrong attitude".
The GB fatties get lots of "latitude" 'cause they got's the "right attitude."
I'm just sayin' is all!
Let's review: It's a cult!
some years ago, i heard from an ex-co who left the borg after the 1980 fallout that frederick franz was extremely outspoken on the subject of gluttony, obesity and staying fit.
he frequently took the stairs instead of the elevator and asked others to do the same as much as possible.
also, whenever the opportunity presented itself, he would also call out bethelites on their eating habits if he noticed even a hint of body fat on them.
Yeah, I'm with RVW on this one, "slightly obese" is likely "slightly pregnant" or "slightly dead."
It does not compute!
Obesity is an excess proportion of total body fat. A person is considered obese when his or her weight is 20% or more above normal weight. The most common measure of obesity is the body mass index or BMI. A person is considered overweight if his or her BMI is between 25 and 29.9; a person is considered obese if his or her BMI is over 30.
"Morbid obesity" means that a person is either 50%-100% over normal weight, more than 100 pounds over normal weight, has a BMI of 40 or higher, or is sufficiently overweight to severely interfere with health or normal function.
i attended recently a circuit assembly and notice a change in the wording of the 2nd baptismal question .it used to be :.
"do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit-directed organization?
now they changed it to :.
"... avoid giving the false impression that Witnesses are somehow bound to the dictates of some religious sect." - w98 3/15 pp. 18-19 par. 4
Hahahahahaha!
Hypocrites! Liars!
Gobble, gobble!
