They screwed up in 1925; they screwed up in 1975!!!
I tell ya: 2025 IS COMING!!!
Mustang
october 2014, should be an interesting watchtower !!!.
wonder what the articles will be ????????.
celebrating 100 years of oops.. we never said 1914, only religions of the world did.. why 1914 is not important.. why the watchtower never makes predictions like other religions.. .
They screwed up in 1925; they screwed up in 1975!!!
I tell ya: 2025 IS COMING!!!
Mustang
the writers of the simpsons must have had jw contacts.. think of ned flanders and his family, totally jw!!.
think ofmr burns doesnt he look just like that evil elder who would always open the theocratic ministry school?.
i am absolutely certain that fred hall is spitting image of mr burns, i can picture him so clearly in his grey raincoat and gold leaf dog eared bible walking hunchedup in the rain pestering people on a sunday afternoon.....
It may be a 2 year old simpson, too
I've found their archives, but that's quite a dig!!!
Mustang
october 2014, should be an interesting watchtower !!!.
wonder what the articles will be ????????.
celebrating 100 years of oops.. we never said 1914, only religions of the world did.. why 1914 is not important.. why the watchtower never makes predictions like other religions.. .
oops, the Seventh Day Adventist's already got that one
Mustang
the writers of the simpsons must have had jw contacts.. think of ned flanders and his family, totally jw!!.
think ofmr burns doesnt he look just like that evil elder who would always open the theocratic ministry school?.
i am absolutely certain that fred hall is spitting image of mr burns, i can picture him so clearly in his grey raincoat and gold leaf dog eared bible walking hunchedup in the rain pestering people on a sunday afternoon.....
Here's loads of similarities:
Homer was abducted/inducted to the "Movementarians" in the episode aired last night (repeat).
The Cult brainwashed everybody until they joined, then put them to tending the bean fields. "The Leader" had a big "forbidden barn" where a giant spaceship was being built. This was to take all the members to the planet "Blisstonia". When Ken Brockmann(??), the news anchor, jeered and denounced the "Movementarians" as a cult, the TV station was bought and he changed spiels in mid sentence.
Homer resists at first and is thought to have superior mental powers by the cults' MS level propaganda pushers :) Homer backslides, leaves through the lower level of security at this point and goes home. The MS types release the "secret weapon" with a cry of: "Unchain the Lawyers". The Lawyers track Homer down and drag him and family back to the compound. Apparently security is beefed up at this point.
"The Leader" occasionally "sallies forth" from the "forbidden barn", drives through the field road and waves an arm out the window of his long, black Rolls-Royce.
The entire neighborhood and all the usual's in Springfield gradually succumb. Monty Burns, discovers that the Cult pays no taxes and he is paying 3$. With a cry of "I'm being screwed", Burns decides to form a rival Cult, but it fails.
Reverend Lovejoy and the Church was finally deserted (even by Ned Flanders) as everyone succumbed to the "Movementarians". Marge escapes the compound through a full military style obstacle course, and shows up at the Church to get help. She doesn't notice that Rev. Lovejoy is dousing the Church building with gasoline, muttering "I didn't think I would ever have to do this again".
Reverend Lovejoy, Groundskeeper Willie (school Janitor) and Marge form a team to abduct and de-program Homer. They get a large sedan that looks like "The Leader's" limo and lure Homer out of the bean field. After beating Homer over the head unsuccessfully, they take him back home. Ned Flanders has escaped by now and feeds Homer a taste of beer. (Moe the Bartender is deeply entranced, back at the Cult Compound.) The beer seems to get through to Homer.
But suddenly Cult MS types and Lawyer's show up and drag everybody back to the Cult Compound, where justice is to be meted out to Homer. Homer suddenly pops put of his trance and runs to expose the "forbidden barn" as a hoax.
But there IS a big Spaceship inside. It starts flying away and everybody scorns Homer for blowing their big chance. Then the Spaceship falls apart and the con-artist is seen inside, with bags of loot. While it looks like he escapes, he falls onto the farm of Cletus the Hillbilly. Cletus relieves the con-artist of his ill-gotten gain with a shotgun.
And everybody snaps out of it and walks off. Moe the Bartender is upset and has to resort to Voodoo to turn Barney Gumble back into an alcoholic and customer.
Now, I suppose they all "live happily ever after" or at least the closest that Springfield ever comes to that!!!
Mustang
over ten years ago when the society changed their format from a contribution basis(pay us for the literature) to a complete donation arrangement, what were you told as to the reason for making this change?
simplification?
easier on the brothers to receive literature?
Jourles,
Do you have the next/last page, rest of the pages or a URL that completes the scanned document?
Mustang
there are so many things that you can't do if you are one of jehovah's witnesses.
for example, you can't salute the flag or stand for the national anthem.
can you think of different things you can't do if you're a witness??
Ask questions about the Bible, religion or "doctrine" (dogma really) that aren't in the list of questions that already have the answer provided !!!!!!!!!
Mustang
hi brothers and sisters,.
i am a new member of this forum.
i attend to the kearny mesa congretation in san diego.. thanks.
Tell us about yourself, please
Mustang
Meeting: 1974
Wedding: 1988
Funeral: 1995
Next time: NEVER!!!
Mustang
after reading blondie's thread of the baptisms at the district convention, i couldn't help but identify with the 11 year old that said she was so happy to be baptized and has wanted to be baptized for years now.
i was 9 when i got baptized but really wanted to take the plunge at around 7. after my mother talked to the congregation servant about my desire, he said that she should not hold me back.
my daughter was 14 when she got baptized.
I took the plunge @ 11. Was this well thought out? NO!!!
And, as I understand it, by today’s’ standards I would be rejected.
I didn’t tell anybody, I just "came in from the cold" walking around the building in the winter weather. I walked over to the row of "table offices", found the Servant in charge of Baptisms and SIGNED UP. I hadn’t even brought a bathing suit, but they provided one!!!
I hadn’t even told or asked my parents.
There was no "20 questions" (200 really) or interrogation by the Elders (no Elders or MS either, in those days). I think this is a better idea, as it slows you down.
I have argued before in the discussions over the legality of Underage Baptism. The question usually is: is the Baptism valid when the individual has not achieved the legal status of "Age of Majority"? This is prompted as most jurisdictions maintain that a Contract with a "minor" cannot be enforced.
Legally, this doesn’t matter much, as "Church Law" (yes, Church Law is alive & well; WTS has got the precedents to prove it) kicks in to counter any gains made in this direction, "Ratification" qualifies the Underage Baptism anyway if you keep up "JW’ing" after you achieve "your majority" age and a great number of other matters. Amazing maintains this is not a Contract for instance, and therefore violation of Contract Law doesn’t apply.
So, legally you don’t have much recourse.
Mavericks’s Baptism Nukifaction (Nullification) is an interesting approach. But there is something mysterious in there, and it only seems partially effective. Still quite interesting, but it does not appear to be a finished product.
I have still thought that "Minor Baptism" or "Underage Baptism" is on cut above the "hated by JW’s" Infant Baptism of Catholics or such. It is one of there more weird-ball doctrines and utilizes the same principle as Infant Baptism: sign up the Unwary and Unsuspecting.
Bottom Line: I did it, without thinking much one way or ‘tother. I now oppose it as an abomination.
Mustang
have you noticed jehovah never speaks to the jws (until they are leaving the watchtower) but the devil is constantly verbal?
they have a doubt "oh its the devil telling me to doubt the borg".
they are tempted by the flesh "oh its the devil telling me to yank my...".
Yes!!!
"Mental regulating"??? Wonder where they got this jewel?
"Mental", as in mind or BRAIN; "regulating" as in adjusting or perhaps cleaning or WASHING?
Whether it is the Devil speaking or Jehovah, it is always negative or harsh, in all these examples. Love? Where, what’s that?
Mustang