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Sent By Atlantis
Title Watchtower Financial statements!
Message
Hi Mustang!

Here are some of the links:

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/922330/0001085037-00-000333.txt

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/110135/1.ashx

Scroll down here:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/110272/1.ashx

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/5455/1.ashx

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/80108/1.ashx

Cheers! Atlantis!

Hope this helps

Mustang

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Any1 ever write to the society requesting some sort of breakdown of what

by cognac in

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they spend money on?.

i wonder what there reply would be... lol .

mustang

My reply from Atlantis:

Sent By Atlantis
Title Watchtower Financial statements!
Message
Hi Mustang!

Here are some of the links:

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/922330/0001085037-00-000333.txt

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/110135/1.ashx

Scroll down here:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/110272/1.ashx

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/5455/1.ashx

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/80108/1.ashx

Cheers! Atlantis!

Hope this helps

Mustang

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OMG OMG OMG!

by Hikaru in

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is this a sign?

is it banning all religion there or what does it mean?

http://www.zeenews.com/states/2008-11-16/484112news.html

mustang

We have probably all felt that treipidation when we were JWs though...i recall I think in 1985 it being declared the "Year of Peace and Security" and omygod the reaction just hearing those WORDS used created in us as JWs!! And all the religious leaders of the world were going to meet in a summit and something BIG was gonna happen and and and....that was 23 years ago and still nothing. And there will continue to be nothing.

Exactly!!!

And my last meeting was the last meeting of 1974. All JW's around me were talking of 1975 being the end. So why would I "leave the ark" then? Circumstances and my moves (to Arizona, with fading as the long term goal) made the decision; I just decided to be dramatic about it. However, I said nothing, just folded my tents and quietly departed.

And just as quietly as I left, NOTHING HAPPENED. By 1980, as has recently been shown, the Yearbook had a stunted, half-baked apology that still "blamed the brethren".

The Blame the Brethren Strategy was hatched by Rutherford in about 1926 after the 1925 debacle. 1925 debacle, you ass? From 1922 on, the Watchtower made positive statements that 1925 was the end. No two ways about it: there are WT quotes that 1925 would be the end. But in 1926, the WT articles were clearly blaming the brethren for "expecting too much", when they were mislead by the leader himself.

And let's not forget that 1914 and 1918 didn't bring heaven on earth, just a mess. Russell and Rutherford were in prison in those years and Russell died. But with things not being where prophesied in the ealy 20's, they created the "invisible coming" strategy and rolled out another prophecy: 1925. Carl Sagan even wrote of the "invisible scam" as being a clever recovery from what should have finished them.

Add to this, the forebears of the JW movement was the Adventist movement of the early 1800's. Miller prophesied of several dates, including 1844. Nothing happened. 1844 is still known as the Great Disappointment to the SDA's (Seveth Day Adventists).

200 years of "crying wolf" and " the sky is falling" is why none of us here has any concern over these things. If your own "critical thinking" (or lack thereof) isn't enough, add what the scriptures say about prophets: if they fail, don't listen to them.

You pay a price for coming here: for every bit of clarification you get several lectures. With the trashy way that JW's have treated all here, what can you expect? I was 20-some years in and 30-some years out. And the 30-some out included 30 years of Stalking by my father and others to return. Others have such horror stories or worse.

I, and others, have concluded that EVEN IF JW's were right, what would living under their real authority be like? We are better to take our chances with God's mercy than these False Prophets.

I hope you soon come to your senses: 1) every little 'rustling of leaves' is not the end, 2) you will get NO REINFORCEMENT here, 3) you may be heading for a 'breakdown' - get help or just back off and 4) this site is getting tired of your dependency.

Early on, you said "if you think I'm lying, that's your problem": NO, IT'S YOUR PROBLEM. Do you know what a TROLL is? You may be really computer savvy, but you seem to have missed this gem of web behavior. You fit the profile. Your apparent sincerity will wear thin after a while and the Troll Trial will begin. I've been on this site 7 years and a previous site 4 years. I've seen this about 4 times.

You will always be on trial for hidden agenda's and other Troll apparatus. I suggest you calm down and make yor next steps towards maturity. That might include getting some help, as has been suggested here. Just be warned that JW's are NOT QUALIFIED to assist in Mental Health issues. In fact, a relative of mine was noted for having a string of Bible Studies that committed suicide. Seek competent help.

With sincere concern,

Mustang

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Muslim misconceptions?

by John Doe in

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yea or nea?

.

http://www.submission.org/women/mis.html.

mustang

Infidel: author, ISBN, date, publisher, another clue, perhaps

Mustang

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any electronics geeks here?

by John Doe in

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i've always wanted to get some breadboards and build some circuits, but have never learned anything past basic house type wiring.

are there any kits that you would recommned, preferablly cheap?

i'd like to learn the principles of capacitors and transistors and fm/am radios and such.

mustang

Update: OK, you want to do breadboards, not "roll your own" PCB's,.

OK: that's easier. Look for the Heathkit ET-3300-B Breadboarding Chassis on EBay. Several pro's that I know have always kept one of these around, on the desk or lab workbench. You can lash up circuits quick with these.

I used to do Component Engineering and run the Manufacturers suggested Test Circuit at my desk with this for evaluation. Once we found a problem and the Manufacturer confirmed it; but the "good" chip would not be available for six weeks. I hand screened 500 chips for Production on my Breadboard.

Then you need to find the old [out of print] Forrest Mims "Engineers Notebook". This has almost all the small circuits you could dream of in one place.

That Heathkit Breadboard, the "Engineers Notebook" and an Engineering kit (mechanical pencil, red and yellow pens/pencils; pocket protector optional; never used one, you can afford shirts) and you have the secrets of the non-degreed, "do it with the rest" Engineers

Mustang

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any electronics geeks here?

by John Doe in

jw
friends

i've always wanted to get some breadboards and build some circuits, but have never learned anything past basic house type wiring.

are there any kits that you would recommned, preferablly cheap?

i'd like to learn the principles of capacitors and transistors and fm/am radios and such.

mustang

50 years of electronics here, this year. Made Sr. Engineer [also Assoc. Principle & Principle] on the practical basis, despite WTS blowing away my going to college in the formative years.

I was going to mention Ramsey, but somebody already did. There are more, I have a list; but Ramsey is at the top.

My particular favorite is Douglas: they do a modular thing, with card cages and connectors for common PCBA (Printed Circuit Board Assemblies) form factors such as DEC, IBM PC, STD Bus and the Generic 22/44. They will take your design and fab bare boards for you. So you can migrate from prototype wired in point-point or wirewrap and go to production boards if you have the requirement. This is good for doing small "in house control systems".

Most people don't do their own PCB's any more, but my old partner/roommate etched some in the kitchen once. I've done homemade "tape up" style artwork from a program with something called "pads" in MS Paint. I did these in MS VISIO and printed it, then xeroxed that out to a "foil" transparency. You have to be real careful, as xerox machines may "dither" the dimensions. But I got a useable positive transparency that can be applied to photo-resist copperclad board for etching.

This is fun, but few people will do this any more.

If you were serious about this, lots of companies will do small runs for prototypers. The best deal i've seen is 33$/board, minimum order of 100$. There are restrictions (single sided, undrilled, no panel boards etc.) and the quality is not MIL spec.

But you can usually find a house that will take a schematic, not requiring artwork or Gerber files.

Overloaded you tech-wise, but need any help, PM;I have time: I'm somewhere between retiring, going at it myself, going contracting or doing one more gig, TBD :)

Mustang

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Any1 ever write to the society requesting some sort of breakdown of what

by cognac in

jw
friends

they spend money on?.

i wonder what there reply would be... lol .

mustang

Those w/ proxies, natch: I remember someone that wangled an invite once. She was "new anointed"; but she wasn't at all "new".

Maybe Atantis has some old Stockholders Meeting "handouts": Oh, Atlantis!!!

Mustang

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OMG OMG OMG!

by Hikaru in

jw
friends

is this a sign?

is it banning all religion there or what does it mean?

http://www.zeenews.com/states/2008-11-16/484112news.html

mustang

should be banned

Notice "should", i.e. this is a suggestion; government decrees, laws and mandates have the words "will be" or "are" to indicate definite action. Something about passive and active voice, here I believe...

Did you pay attention in English 101? Oh, HS English? Grade school has it also.

And the WTS decided that people should learn enough to be conversant with the English language at the door or in letters; to that end they published "Qualified to Be Ministers", 1955 and soon instituted the Theocratic Ministry School.

That "don't go to college" scam they pull DOESN'T mean skip the classes that you are OK'd to do.

Don't bother to try telling me that they never said that: I got SHEPHERDING CALLS FOR GOING TO NIGHT SCHOOL.

Swami Agnivesh

Right!!!! This is Indian (India Edition) and is not a political office; he is a guru of a religious sect himself. This might as well be the Moonie in the airport.

"banning any organisation using religion to create disturbances in the country. "

You are going straight for what YOU WANT TO HEAR and glossing over real clues, like passive voice suggestions, titles of RELIGIOUS leaders with no official capacity and several others.

Where is your critical thinking?

Mustang