i_drank_the_wine

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  She prayed for me.... and I spent the afternoon puking my guts out

  by Scully in

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  i recently did a favour for one of my co-workers by exchanging a shift with her so she could have a day off when she needed it for a family event.. we worked together last night, and she was so excited about the family event that happened a couple of days ago - she really appreciated being able to go.

  so this morning, at the end of our shift, she tells me that she is going to church before she goes home to sleep, and she is going to pray for me to have many good things from god for doing this favour for her.. i'm flattered that she thinks it was such a big deal, but i told her "no really, that is not necessary... you really don't have to pray for me!

  " she was insistent!!

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  Mulder would say that this is simply a coincidence, no conspiracy here :-)

  Jokes aside, that's a terrible coincidence. Feel better!
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  Is it possible for an apostate to get reindoctrinated?

  by foolsparadise in

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  and if so why?.

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  If someone is a true apostate, meaning that they have actually left their former set of beliefs in exchange for new ones, then it would be hard for someone to go back IMO. I always liken it to humankind learning that the earth isn't flat - once people learned that the earth is round they couldn't really go back.

  People that leave the JW's or get DF'd and never bother to take the time to find a new set of beliefs aren't really apostates though IMO. Yes, they may have left the official rank and file of the JW's, but if they never fill it with anything else. These are the people that I could easily see returning at some point, or at the very least praying to Yahweh from their deathbeds.
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  If you watch this you will definitely believe in God

  by mankkeli in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yum__dm_dwg&feature=related.

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  I guess all that time studying evolution and natural selection after I left the JW's was wasted :-( Now I have no choice but to believe that the invisible prickish Old Testament invisible Hebrew sky-daddy Yahweh and his pacifist alter ego are out there ruling it for reals.
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  I Got My Mail At Work Today & I Recieved A Package With White Powder in It!

  by minimus in

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  i called the police and they brought the fire department and police to retrieve the post office package.

  i found out that in the last month at least 2 other businesses got this type of package.

  the white powder was in a plastic that was placed inside a pack of orbit gum.. the contents were taken and were then brought to the town postmaster.. wish me luck!.

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  my guess: blow.
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  Proof of God or Christ without a holy book

  by Awen in

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  in some previous posts i have asked certain questions that still haven't been answered.

  so without going back to those threads and possibly de-railing them i thought it best to make a new topic.

  please bear with me.. i have asked certain ones to prove the existence of god or christ without referencing any biblical writings or characters.

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  i_drank_the_wine

  thanks for sharing the http://nobeliefs.com/exist.htm link. great read so far.
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  Proof of God or Christ without a holy book

  by Awen in

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  in some previous posts i have asked certain questions that still haven't been answered.

  so without going back to those threads and possibly de-railing them i thought it best to make a new topic.

  please bear with me.. i have asked certain ones to prove the existence of god or christ without referencing any biblical writings or characters.

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  i wonder what the numbers are of ex-jws, or ex-any religion, that are atheist/agnostic vs those who still believe in a god/gods
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  Steve Jobs message @ death. ALL JWS NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS!!!

  by itscrap&theyknowit! in

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  http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2011/10/06/jobs-stanford-commencement-dying.cnn?hpt=hp_t1.

  i cried when i watched this.

  the message: don't let another human's opinion ruin your life!

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  i never liked jobs and his insane narcism, but he did start a company that changed the world, and his ending quotes nearly brought a tear to my eye. thanks for sharing. was never a fan, but can't deny that he was his own man that walked the path of his choosing. rip steve. jw's could learn a lot from him.
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  WTBTS impact on the environment nubmers, repost from another jw site

  by i_drank_the_wine in

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  taken from: http://www.thebroadroad.com/forum/#topic/bring-to-ruin-those-ruining-the-earth-trees-wtbts.htm.

  i never found statistics on the amount of paper the wtbts wastes, but i think they're might be a little hypocritical by parading the "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" verse that they always quote.

  it got me curious and i decided to crunch some numbers.... they print 42 million washtowels a month, more than any other magazine in the world (http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20110501.pdf).

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  good point yan. then again people in the tree hugger movement are against any form of wasteful tree killings, and more copies of the wt are printed every month than any other periodical on earth. theres definite ex-jw bias there, but i stil think it sort of gives an idea of how much stuff they spit out, knowing that a lot of it just gets thrown away. every time i moved when i was a jw i had bags full of unplaced mags that i just threw in the garbage.
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  WTBTS impact on the environment nubmers, repost from another jw site

  by i_drank_the_wine in

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  taken from: http://www.thebroadroad.com/forum/#topic/bring-to-ruin-those-ruining-the-earth-trees-wtbts.htm.

  i never found statistics on the amount of paper the wtbts wastes, but i think they're might be a little hypocritical by parading the "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" verse that they always quote.

  it got me curious and i decided to crunch some numbers.... they print 42 million washtowels a month, more than any other magazine in the world (http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20110501.pdf).

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  A friend of mine just brought up a good point, which could suck the wind out of that argument. What if the jw's are using all recycled paper? Still seems like a terrible amount of waste though. Not sure if recycled printing paper is like recycled paper towels and such, but usually the "go green" stuff at the market is more expensive than the new stuff. WT seems like some cheap-asses to me, so i dunno.
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  WTBTS impact on the environment nubmers, repost from another jw site

  by i_drank_the_wine in

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  taken from: http://www.thebroadroad.com/forum/#topic/bring-to-ruin-those-ruining-the-earth-trees-wtbts.htm.

  i never found statistics on the amount of paper the wtbts wastes, but i think they're might be a little hypocritical by parading the "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" verse that they always quote.

  it got me curious and i decided to crunch some numbers.... they print 42 million washtowels a month, more than any other magazine in the world (http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20110501.pdf).

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  taken from: http://www.thebroadroad.com/forum/#topic/Bring-to-ruin-those-ruining-the-earth-trees-WTBTS.htm

  I never found statistics on the amount of paper the WTBTS wastes, but I think they're might be a little hypocritical by parading the "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" verse that they always quote. It got me curious and I decided to crunch some numbers...

  They print 42 million Washtowels a month, more than any other magazine in the world (http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_E_20110501.pdf). This is a stupendous amount of paper when you consider the number of other things they also publish.

  The WTBTS does not release numbers on other printing endeavours, but just for argument sake let's say that the monthly printing of Awakes, NWT's, tracts, brochures, song books, daily texts, memorial invites, time slips, discarded excess paper, misprints, thicker paper book covers, boxes for shipping, paper records, and all the other books combined uses the same amount of paper (although I would feel pretty safe guessing that the number is higher) as their monthly Watchtower printing.

  So, 42 million public Washtowels a month, at 32 pages each (16 pieces of paper) = 672,000,000 pieces of paper a month X 2 (as per above conservative guesstimate on total printing of everything else that they do) gives us 1,344,000,000 pieces of paper a month, 16,128,000,000 pieces of paper a year.

  Paper is generally made from pine trees, with the average tree yielding 80,500 sheets of paper(http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/question16.htm)

  So, using rough math based on their own data and some other referenses, the WTBTS is devouring at least 200,387 trees a year.

  According to the US forest service, there was an estimated 286,464,432 live timberland trees in the US in 2002 (their count did not include Alaska, and this count is undoubtedly a lower number now): http://www.fia.fs.fed.us/slides/Trend-data/Web%20Historic%20Spreadsheets/1977_2002_Live_trees_dbh.xls

  Using a program to count the number of blue pixels in the map below and using the figures above, I made a graphical representation of the number of estimated trees eaten by the WTBTS every YEAR (orange square) vs the government's live timber count. This orange block representing the annual tree usage looks small, but is roughly the same size as all but one of the Hawaiian islands and some of the the smaller states too. If they're monthly printing of everything other than the public Watchtower is larger than that of the public Watchtower (which I think it is) then this box grows even larger.

  

  I'm sure you'll agree, whether you did this yourself or not, that a large percentage of JW's don't even come close to reading each Watchtower, nevermind all the other books and brochures that they spam everyone with. Nevermind the percentage of "placed" pieces of literature being read... most of which wind up in laundromat garbage cans. Add in all the fuel and energy used to print this trash, and we have a printing, real estate, and holdings corporation that is throwing a massive amount of our dwindling tree growth straight down the drain.

  If I didn't calculate something right or if I left anything out let me know. I haven't had my coffee yet.

  Curiosity turned off... back to work...