I was thinking of spending 50 hours in October watching grass grow instead - it's far more fruitful than giving away watchtowers and taking coffee breaks for 50 hours a month.
i_drank_the_wine
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Are you going to Auxilliary Pioneer this October?
by Quarterback inthe little demo at the ca showed a young fella meditating and by golly he reasoned that october had an extra weekend so that was reason enough for him to put in a a pioneer application.
what a brilliant idea.. who else will be doing this?.
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I really want to go JW but..
by fortbethel ini've studied with like 30 diff denominations.
i really feel jw is best for me.
i think it's the 144,000 part & the once a year get together when they pass around the sacrament that bothers me most.
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i_drank_the_wine
Forbethel - you seem like a sincere and well-meaning person. Is one of the 30 denominations that you've studied Atheism or Agnosticism? Just curious.
Personally, I do not believe that there is any almighty ancient Hebrew sky zombie, and even if there is some sort of god, I doubt he really cares too much what we do with our penis molecules. Don't beat yourself up over something so silly as porn. The fact that you are looking to try and find what you consider to be "truth" or the right path to walk shows that you have a conscience and a heart. Live life, continue to be a good person as you seem to be, and stop beating yourself up with guilt and this quest, when no one can deffinitively say they have the only 100% right answer to.
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So who is going to do some kind of protest next Sunday?
by serenitynow! innext sunday is the discussion of the 7/15/2011 wt article about shunning.
i am planning to stand outside of a kh on a major street with a big banner that says that the jws do indeed destroy families with their shunning policy.
i will have many copies of the article that will be discussed that day.. anyone else have any plans?.
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i_drank_the_wine
I have my own personal form of protest. It involves visiting a random kingdom hall, giving a good comment and a fake name to gain their trust, then giving a second comment that includes the word "f*ck" in it and acting like nothing happened.
Ok, well, I haven't gotten the juevos to do this plan yet... but some day...
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Practical ways we can assist and improve the lives of jaydubs.
by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. init's time all you mentally diseased and demon possessed heathen ex-jws acknowledged the fine works being achieved by the brothers.
afterall, there are many here who continue to espouse the ruputed fact that the jws they know, or are related to, are decent, honest, loving persons.. perhaps it's just me, but as i reflect, i wonder, where were all wonderful persons when i was in the cult?
a 'good' jw is a mythical creature, much like their god.. but anyhow, putting that aside - what are some down to earth practical ways we can help the brothers?.
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i_drank_the_wine
Really there's very little that can be done. They have to do it.
You can bring a horse to water, but can't make them drink - that sort of thing.
When I left I told everyone in my large family that I wasn't going to be a JW ever again, and the reasons why. You can show them a laundry list of flaws, doctrinal holes, prophetic blunders, info on the WT's inglorious roots, UN, 607 - you name it. Until the person actually starts thinking on their own, there is no amount of accurate information that you can share that will make them budge - at least in my experience. I'd bet that most of my friends/family stopped reading the letters/emails I sent at the first sign of "apostasy".
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What was your favorite convention beverage?
by i_drank_the_wine inthere's so many good choices, i can barely pick!.
dart?.
shasta cola?.
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i_drank_the_wine
There's so many good choices, I can barely pick!
Dart?
Shasta Cola?
Continental Cola?
half-frozen tiny OJ's?
I might return to the flock if they'd just bring the OG food services back.
Nothin' like talking to a pretty pioneer sister, fully covered from chin to ankles in a patterned dress, and asking them to dine with you during lunch. "Hey baby, can I get you a Shasta?" I'm kicking myself just thinking of all the heavy-petting and elder's meetings I'm missing out on.
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experiences of angels and smurfs
by focariedu21 inyou guys think that all the experiences about angels helping brothers or protecting brothers were true?
for e.g the experience where brothers were running away from nazis and were being shot at whilst running were said to be protected by an angel running backwards and stopping the bullets.
or the one where two sisters go to a door and a man that had intentions of killing them hesitated because he claimed he saw an angel behind them or the one where a smurf gets up from his seat at the front of the kingdom hall looks at the brother giving the talk and says "i had enough of this" what do you guys think?
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i_drank_the_wine
Self-delusion, fear, and hardline relgious beliefs can be a powerful combination. I know in my family, there's quite a few that claim to have "felt Jehovah's holy spirit in action", and one that even claims that a little giftshop item that a friend got for them on vacation let a demon into their house that shook their bed at night until they started throwing things away one at a time and "figured out" it was this gift.
Personally I've never felt or experienced anything supernatural or "spiritual". One of the things that always bothered me as a kid, and one of the many things that led me to never going back, was all the talk of things like "some JW's were trying to bring magazines into a country where the work is banned, but the angels made the soliders/police/whoever not see the Watchtowers". Or, JW's in a war-torn country have their Kingdumb Hall hit by a stray mortar or something, but the angels protected everyone and there were no injuries!
For every account like this, there's some JW that gets his by a drunk driver, gets jailed by the authorities, etc. I even remember being a punk teenage kid at the bookstudy when someone gave one of these rediculous stories. I raised my hand and asked the conductor why sometimes jehovah and the angels protect people and other times they're allowed to get killed. The conductor's answer? "Sounds like a good topic for personal study. We answer questions at the bookystudy, not ask them." Guess I was already mentally checking out by 15.
Maybe there are spirit creatures of some sort? I don't know. Science just in this last year discovered its first non-carbon life form here on earth. Modern string theory models mathematically account for upwards for 10 different dimensions (26 dimensions in one model), and we only effectively see 3. We're like a hundred years past the industrial age and still know relatively little about the universe around us. Who's not to say that there are living things in dimensions that we can't fully sense?
Sorry for rambling, but just, who knows what's really what? All I know is that there's no ancient flying Hebrew woman-hating serial killer god floating around right now dispatching his army of angels to protect and serve the members of this insane cult that I was raised in.
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I was looking through some old notes and I remembered how dull the meetings were
by gubberningbody ini was the school overseer, and the only way i could pay attention was by ripping every part to shreds.
everything was so elementary and boring.
why anyone would have needed to take notes was beyond me.
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i_drank_the_wine
My usual M.O. as a kid when doing assembles and conventions was to take like 3/4 of a full page of notes as fast as I could. These notes were basically me just writing down whatever word the speaker happened to be saying at the time, regardless of what it was or if it relatd to what I just got done writing. Add random punctuation and write a few bible verses. One hand on notepad, other on chin, ZZZZzzzzz.... wake up, eat lunch, repeat during afternoon. Go home, bang head against wall.
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Good movie, totally creeped me out to see what Jesus would have been like today
by i_drank_the_wine inapologies in advance to any fellow ex-jw's that personally believe in christ.
we all have our own beliefs now, whatever works for you and isn't jw's - i am all for it.. i watched a netflix streaming movie yesterday called the encounter.
http://movies.netflix.com/wimovie/the_encounter/70184203?trkid=4213507.
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i_drank_the_wine
Apologies in advance to any fellow ex-JW's that personally believe in Christ. We all have our own beliefs now, whatever works for you and isn't JW's - I am all for it.
I watched a Netflix streaming movie yesterday called The Encounter. http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_Encounter/70184203?trkid=4213507
Why I watched it, I don't know. It just showed up under new releases and for some reason I thought it was supposed to be a horror/thriller B-movie or something. I just put it on my 2nd monitor to halfway watch while I was working on my main screen.
Long story short, this movie had Jesus intervene, posing as a diner cook/owner, trying to "save"/turn-around 5 people in it, and had Jesus act and talk just like the Jesus from the Bible.
If Jesus was real and alive today in human form he would have totally creeped me out. The way that he talked the whole time in whimsical riddle fashion, the way that he was telling these people what to do in their lives, the fake-JW-like smile plastered on his face the whole time like he was in the Soundgarden "Black Hole Sun" video, the uncomfortable way he repeatedly tells each of the other 5 characters "I love you" and stares at them, the fact that he kept repeating how he knows everything because he's Jesus....
I mean, if you get a chance, just watch it. It made me feel really icky and uncomfortable inside for some reason lol.
Funny thing is they have one of the characters ask him multiple questions like why he killed all the men, women, children, and livestock in Canaan. It's like they used the Reasoning Book and other religious fluffery to answer the doubter. It keeeeeeeled me.
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New here looking for some help
by angel.face inlong story short, i have been a jw for the pst 7 years.
i am married with 2 kids.
hubby is a die hard jw who is an ms and would like to be elder.
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i_drank_the_wine
Welcome! First off, my heart goes out to you. That is such a rough and stressful spot to be in. I really hope you can reach your husband.
When I no longer wanted to go to any meetings my wife went out of her way to have the elders come over to counsel me repeatedly. I watched R rated movies. I drank beer. I sometimes said curse words! OMG! As time passed, she really went out of her way to report all three of these to the elders every single time. Considering I wasn't going to meetings, and that I wouldn't even let them in my house if my wife wasn't home... I got DF'd, divorced, lost family, etc. My wife was such a b*tch and gung-ho JW that fading was not possible for me. Plan your moves carefully!
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Going back to the hall for the first time in four months
by lohengren infour months ago i left home after arguing with my pops.
haven't been to a meeting since, nor have i talked to my father.
tomorrow i'm gonna go see my 8 year old brother give his first talk.
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i_drank_the_wine
I don't think there's a force in the 'verse that could get me to walk back into a crappy kingdumb hall and be around those ignorant arrogant cult-holes ever again. Good luck.